The Etp Model Has Been Empirically Confirmed

[Beer w/Straw]

Don't think I did not notice your comment "Happiness is a warm gun" you will get your chance I soon will be easy to find.

Um... WTF?

There should be a time for you two (three, whatever) to stop already.

 

[Futilitist]

La la la. Answer this:

Okay.

The oil price is an economic game... The Etp model is for the ignorant.

The oil price is not controlled by anyone. The Saudis are in a price war that they did not start. They simply have no choice. No oil producer can do anything but produce flat out or go bankrupt. That is because the Etp model is correct that 2012 was crossover point where the EROEI of an average barrel of oil reached 2:1 for the end consumers of oil.



---Futilitist

 

[Beer w/Straw]

Whatever... The Saudis have a war chest they can fall back on whilst they try to drive competitors out of business so they can grab more of the market share.

It's simple really... Oh no wait, maybe the simplest answer is we're all doomed!!!

 

[Futilitist]

Whatever... The Saudis have a war chest they can fall back on whilst they try to drive competitors out of business so they can grab more of the market share.

Whatever. The Saudis are not the cause of our problems. The US frackers started the price war when they overproduced in the face of falling demand. The Saudis had no choice but to fight the price war that the US started.

If you are saying that the Saudis might win the price war, you may be right. And that would not be too good for the US. Maybe the US should declare a real war on Saudi Arabia, just in case.



---Futilitist

 

[Beer w/Straw]

I don't believe you, however, way to make it sound like an economic game...

lol come on, the Etp model is to predict a throw of the dice? You've said so much nonesense you now forget where the contradictions lie in your words.

 

[Futilitist]

I don't believe you, however, way to make it sound like an economic game...
lol come on, the Etp model is to predict a throw of the dice?

The current price war is irrelevant. It is not the cause of anything. It is merely a symptom of the thermodynamic conditions described by the Etp model. The Etp model does not predict the outcome of the price war. It just forecasts that the price of oil cannot ever sustainably exceed the Etp maximum oil price curve.

The oil price is still well under the Etp maximum oil price curve, and seems to actually be paralleling it:

Coincidence? Time will tell, but so far, the Etp model would seem to be correct.

Your Saudi excuse doesn't explain anything. The Etp model explains why there is a price war in the first place.

And even if we totally disregard the Etp model, the logical outcome of the current price war will still be very bad for the economy. So your Saudi excuse isn't really much to celebrate, is it?



---Futilitist

 

[Beer w/Straw]

The Etp model does not predict the outcome of the price war. It just forecasts that the price of oil cannot ever sustainably exceed the Etp maximum oil price curve.

LOL And forecasts the apocalypse too don't forget!



---Beer w/Straw

 

[Beer w/Straw]

THOSE BITCHES OF DOOM!

I want my mommy.



---Beer w/Straw

 

[Dr_Toad]

Anti-troll flooding?

Good. Maybe they drowned.

 

[Futilitist]

LOL And forecasts the apocalypse too don't forget!

No, it does not. That forecast is mine. It is not the official Etp model forecast. The Etp model just forecasts that the price of oil cannot sustainably exceed the Etp maximum oil price curve. So far it is correct.

And the Olsen twins post is trolling. It just shows how immature you are.

You are only undermining your own credibility by posting garbage instead of reasoned arguments. Your choice.



---Futilitist

 

[BrianHarwarespecialist]

Nah I'm pretty sure he's disgusted with the lack of scholarship in you posts. Not a problem if you recognize your scholarship associated with physics is lacking. Cranks generally refuse to acknowledge their lack of scholarship. Intellectual dishonesty. They also are afraid of the literature because it defines their lack of scholarship.

As I meantioned before I am only brainstorming feel free to criticize. Please be direct and specific about your issues in the content of my post the ad hominem does not resolve issues, its ok to disagree with me but address the logic of my post. Then I can correct my errors in though structure if you can show them to exist. I will be pleased to do so as I will only gain from this. I will not gain from childish name calling. To be honest when exterminating pests I believe the best method is to strike at the source I bet you can at least agree with that?

 

[Futilitist]

As I meantioned before I am only brainstorming feel free to criticize. Please be direct and specific about your issues in the content of my post the ad hominem does not resolve issues, its ok to disagree with me but address the logic of my post. So I can correct my errors in though structure if you can show them to exist. I will be pleased to do so as I will only gain from this. I will not gain from childish name calling to be honest when exterminating pests I believe the best method is to strike at the source I bet you can at least agree with that?

Please take your distracting, off topic argument with the stupid toad elsewhere. Thank you.



---Futilitist

 

[Futilitist]

This thread is to seriously discuss the Etp model. The trolling is just stupid and tiresome. It proves that no one here can offer any serious arguments to refute the Etp model.

I have sufficiently answered all challenges to the Etp model that have been offered here. I submit once again that I have proven that the Etp model is valid. Thank you.



---Futilitist

 

[Dr_Toad]

Seriously stupid trolling, sufficiently proven from the very first post.

Fuck you.

 

[Beer w/Straw]

And the Olsen twins post is trolling. It just shows how immature you are.

You are only undermining your own credibility by posting garbage instead of reasoned arguments. Your choice.

I'll take your words under advisement.

---Beer w/Straw

 

[Futilitist]

Once again. This thread is to seriously discuss the Etp model. I would really appreciate it if folks could show some respect as I continue to make a sincere argument for the validity of the Etp model. Thank you.



---Futilitist

 

[Beer w/Straw]

You don't have to answer. If you would believe my intention is trying to understand why you are so illogical and obsessive, but do you have asperger's syndrome?

If the answer is "yes" I'll tone myself down or even withdraw from the thread entirely.

 

[krash661]

Show your work. Prove you actually did such a calculation.

i'll do this when you finally grasp what this means,As I patiently explained to krash661, there is no "sheet". So, no, it is not a fair request.
i cannot ask you for yours but you can ask me for mine ?
hilarious.

The Etp model does not use any economic data at all. It uses the production history of oil, the reservoir temperature, and the water cut as inputs.

yeah, which is econ data.

So, it is clear that you didn't actually perform any calculations and if you did, you did not use the right inputs anyway.

first there is no sheet, now i don't have the right inputs?
shrugs.
show us what the correct inputs are, just like i have been requesting for umpteeeeeeennttthhhhhhhhhhhhh times already.
it's that simple.

You are just trying to make the invalid claim that I am not sufficiently addressing your invalid questions.

anyone can read you ignoring my request. yes, yes.. everyone can read, weird right ?
also why is it invalid ? again, odd.

But I have answered your stupid questions as best I can even though they are largely unintelligible gibberish.

your answer is there is no sheet, then in the next line you say i have the inputs incorrect, so which is it ?
show me the correct inputs with the correct values, again it's that simple, but instead you're still iniating this one massive shiit of words as a diversion. you think you're persuasive. reality is, you're just continuously exposing yourself of what a professional mental malfunction-ist you are.

This all seems to be happening in some sort of childish attempt to claim that I am being somehow hypocritical to dodge your so called questions since I have rightly accused exchemist of dodging mine.

exactly, it's referred to as hypocritical.
shrugs. i'm glad we established that, especially when you have already confirmed one of the functions has collapsed.then in the next say it's empirically valid.
shrugs

But exchemist really is dodging my vaild questions and you are just making shit up.

says the schizophrenic whom has no clue what they said ten minutes ago...
reminds me of someone else.

What you are doing is called trolling.

asking for the values used for your etp model is trollish ?
~~THE KRASH661

 

[Write4U]

I don't expect you to accept the Etp model. I was hoping you would be true to your word and take an honest look at. But you seem to have made your mind up a long time ago.

Show me where I have rejected your proposal outright (made up my mind). In fact I even acknowledged a possible relationship, but qualified it with an observation that several other factors may be in play which are not shown on the charts.
Just one example (out of many) may be found here:

Following the explosion and sinking of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig, a sea-floor oil gusher flowed for 87 days, until it was capped on 15 July 2010.[6][7] Eleven people were never found[8][9][6][10] and it is considered the largest accidental marine oil spill in the history of the petroleum industry, an estimated 8% to 31% larger in volume than the previously largest, the Ixtoc I oil spill. The US Government estimated the total discharge at 4.9 million barrels (210 million US gal; 780,000 m3).[3] After several failed efforts to contain the flow, the well was declared sealed on 19 September 2010.[11] Reports in early 2012 indicated the well site was still leaking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

Even if the Fibonacci Sequence really is a good tool for forecasting daisy prices, it still has nothing to do with whether or not the Etp model is valid. So, your argument is basically meaningless. ---Futilitist

Dismissing my example as meaningless does not bolster your argument. In fact it weakens it, IMHO.

 

[Futilitist]

Show me where I have rejected your proposal outright (made up my mind).

I don't have to. It is my personal opinion that you are being insincere. I am entitled to my opinion. I am just being honest.

Your oil spill obsession doesn't make any sense to me. I don't see how oil spills have anything to do with the validity of the Etp model. And I discussed it with you before anyway.

Dismissing my example as meaningless does not bolster your argument. In fact it weakens it, IMHO.

I disagree. But you are entitled to your own opinion.



---Futilitist