The Confused Athiest
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I don't really. If anything, I am like water - shapeless, tasteless, colorless, flowing, freezing, permeating, embracing, disappearing and reappearing. Not one or the other, but still something.
The rest - that which I define with "for all practical purposes" - is the stuff that mixes with water, floats in it, sinks in it, freezes or heats it, dams it or releases it.
So, undefined rather than undecided. Must be torture.
No, it is about rejecting the claims of the various religions, yours included. There is no difference between your unfounded, unsubstantiated claims for your god as there is for any other theist.
The typical responses to theists claims are, demonstrate your claims. Simple, really.
Sometimes it is torture, other times it is bliss.
But it doesn't seem to have been my decision to be this way to begin with.
It's called, "intellectual dishonesty" on your part. It's little wonder your discussions turn south.
I can't imagine such a state, I like things nice and tidy, making sense to me, even if they don't to anyone else.
Ah, yes, the illusions of free will can be deeply entrenched.
I'm not in the mood, otherwise I would put you on the glass slide again.
Come now, Sam, we all know you're always in the mood for intellectual dishonesty. One need only look at your 38K posts to confirm.
What do you expect from a propaganda bot?
Fine by me, Miss 47.08 posts per day.
Sorry, were you under the impression we actually want you to respond?
You're delirious. We're just pointing out your BS.
Wish you had an option for I believe all existing human assertions of 'God' are false, but otherwise I don't know if some omnipotent life form exists (but doubt it).
I am a standard kind of atheist. There is no need to go searching for arcane words. And you are a common type of theist in your reactions to that - very familiar, from the projections of "belief" and the attributions of amorality to the assumption of megalomania and anti-religious bigotry to the refusal of credit for virtue in anyone without a professed God.SAM said:
Yes you can. I do. Degrees of uncertainty, SAM - one's best judgment, in the circumstances. Adult, grownup, mature approaches to complex matters. They are possible.SAM said:
If someone tells you they are atheist, they probably aren't telling you what their religion is. Almost no one has atheism as a religion. If in America, try making sure they understand you aren't using the question as a wedge for evangelising.SAM said:
And you need a better dictionary - one with more of the common meanings, and usage advice. In a culture dominated by theists and ideologues, you get a lot of strange definitions of politico/religious words in the less careful dictionaries - look up "anti-Semitism", for example, and see if enmity toward the country of Israel is one of the definitions.
Lacking the unfortunate atheist's perspective, you may not be aware how common your brand of BS is in the US. That's not always embarrassment you're meeting - it's sometimes wariness.SAM said:
No, you don't.SAM said:
I don't find myself on your list. 1) is close, but you insist on such qualifiers as "unassailable", similar to the qualifiers elsewhere, which mislead. And they mislead in a particular direction, I've noticed. Pride, belief in unassailable arguments, heedlessness - the atheists are not an admirable lot, are they.greenberg said:
Yes. And how convenient for them.
It's also standard for them to have no evidence and no rational argument. It makes things far more easier.
The belief of unbelief.
I, also, believe there is no pot of gold at the end of those rainbows, I endlessly run after.
Still can't prove it thuogh. I'm just a blind, inane, clownish believer.
We have so much in common, you and I.
I also said that there may be more reasons for why a person calls themselves an atheist; in that list, I outlined those that seem most common.