Enmos
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Uhm the zodiac are just stars that only seem arranged in a particular way from our earth, but mainly because of our imagination.
The Bible is founded on ASTROLOGY!
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Uhm the zodiac are just stars that only seem arranged in a particular way from our earth, but mainly because of our imagination.
So you believe that the Zodiac is god? Interesting, sorta backs up my assertion in an unusual way.
Actually if you look at this article:
The Constellations Don't Look Like What They're Named
You will see that the dots were not connected to produce those shapes, the constellations got their names/characters from the time of year when they were present.
Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall
The moon (Humpty) is in conjuction with Orion's Belt, making it look like Humpty is sitting on a wall.
Humpty Dumpty had a big fall
The moon falls below the horizon.
All the king's horses and all the king's men,
couldn't put Humpty together again.
All the nights that follow, the moon does not appear above Orion's Belt again.
I'm not particularly good at this..; the point is: you can make astrological allegory out of anything. That doesn't prove that it was created as astrological allegory.
The moon (Humpty) is in conjuction with Orion's Belt, making it look like Humpty is sitting on a wall.
Humpty Dumpty had a big fall
The moon falls below the horizon.
All the king's horses and all the king's men,
couldn't put Humpty together again.
All the nights that follow, the moon does not appear above Orion's Belt again.
I'm not particularly good at this..; the point is: you can make astrological allegory out of anything. That doesn't prove that it was created as astrological allegory.
The Jesus allegory is infinitely more complex than yours. So by that logic it is mathematically impossible for it to be coincidence!
If the glove fits you have to acquit!
I have a couple ideas yes.
Ancient Sumerian culture have tablets that depict the sun as the center of the solar system. Not only that but they knew of all the planets.
Thousands of years later however, people went stupid when their history was somehow erased from their knowledge.......and the earth became the center.....not only that but it was flat.
If you say that the Sun is your god I will fully support that. It is at least an unmasked version of modern religion! So I have absolutely no beef with your Sun worship. I only have a problem when people worship the Sun and are deluded that it is something it's not. :thumbsup:
I have a couple ideas yes.
Ancient Sumerian culture have tablets that depict the sun as the center of the solar system. Not only that but they knew of all the planets.
Thousands of years later however, people went stupid when their history was somehow erased from their knowledge.......and the earth became the center.....not only that but it was flat.
Yes I've begun to watch the Enki documentary you sent me. If those tablets are for real that would certainly explain a LOT!
WOW! This guy, from his posts, does not seem to be a Christian. But, he obviously is able to realize that two little verses do not determine the whole mean of the book. It would be nice to have people more like him.
If you read verses before it:
From whose womb comes the ice?
And the frost of heaven, who gives it birth?
30 The waters harden like stone,
And the surface of the deep is frozen.
31 “Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades,
Or loose the belt of Orion?
32 Can you bring out Mazzaroth[a] in its season?
Or can you guide the Great Bear with its cubs?
33 Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?
Can you set their dominion over the earth?
34 “Can you lift up your voice to the clouds,
That an abundance of water may cover you?
This is actually God saying that He is the creator of the earth, and He has the power to change it. And that God, can protect you.
Why are Christians, Jews, and Muslims taught that astrology is evil? Could it be because if they understood astrology they might understand something else? Like their scriptures!
Obviously, QuestionEverything, it's you who does not understand the Bible.
It would be best if you would read the whole book of Job. For many who are trying to learn more about the Bible, and want to prove it wrong. I suggest you read a book called "The Case for Christ". The author was an atheist who was trying to prove that the Bible contridicts itself.
WOW! This guy, from his posts, does not seem to be a Christian. But, he obviously is able to realize that two little verses do not determine the whole mean of the book. It would be nice to have people more like him.
If you read verses before it:
From whose womb comes the ice?
And the frost of heaven, who gives it birth?
30 The waters harden like stone,
And the surface of the deep is frozen.
31 “Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades,
Or loose the belt of Orion?
32 Can you bring out Mazzaroth[a] in its season?
Or can you guide the Great Bear with its cubs?
33 Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?
Can you set their dominion over the earth?
34 “Can you lift up your voice to the clouds,
That an abundance of water may cover you?
This is actually God saying that He is the creator of the earth, and He has the power to change it. And that God, can protect you.
Why are Christians, Jews, and Muslims taught that astrology is evil? Could it be because if they understood astrology they might understand something else? Like their scriptures!
Obviously, QuestionEverything, it's you who does not understand the Bible.
This god you refer to is the Sun. Why else would it be so easily associated with the stars? Stars in the Bible are kings and lords. So naturally the Sun would be described as the "King of kings" and "Lord of lords" as that is what you call the most prominent star in the sky.
Don't take my word for it see for yourself.
... and this author found out he was retarded in the process apparently.
I have read the Bible from cover to cover, have you?
Job is nothing but a story of how Satan uses God as a tool to destroy one of his own followers. God's pride in his mind control of Job is displayed while he destroys all that Job holds dear. If I were you I wouldn't use Job as an example to promote your God. If you do I will whip out the full scripture of Job in this forum and tear your arguments to pieces. So please if that's what you want, bring it on! :deal:
Job 1:8-12 (King James Version)
8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
God is bragging about his favorite servant Job, isn't pride a sin? :scratchin:
9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
Satan baits God to tempt him and see if he can get permission to mess with Job. Whatever happened to "Tempt not the lord thy God"? Oh that's right it's Satan we're talking about here! :mufc:
12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
God fails this test of temptation and says, "alright it's a bet! But don't kill him, if you kill him he can't live to still prove you wrong by not turning on me!" And thus the tragedy begins. Yet God who is omniscient already knew Job would not turn against God so why bother persecuting Job? To prove to Satan what God already knows, that's why. Confirmation of God's pride!
8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
God is bragging about his favorite servant Job, isn't pride a sin? :scratchin:
9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
Satan baits God to tempt him and see if he can get permission to mess with Job. Whatever happened to "Tempt not the lord thy God"? Oh that's right it's Satan we're talking about here! :mufc:
12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
God fails this test of temptation and says, "alright it's a bet! But don't kill him, if you kill him he can't live to still prove you wrong by not turning on me!" And thus the tragedy begins. Yet God who is omniscient already knew Job would not turn against God so why bother persecuting Job? To prove to Satan what God already knows, that's why. Confirmation of God's pride!
the sun is just a symbol/metaphor of god.
No, God is an anthropomorphism of the Sun.
The Sun exists, God does not. The anthropomorphism is nothing but a man made construct, period.
jesus is similar to the sun because god is similar to the sun. it shines unconditionally with its warmth (love) on all people. people worshipped the sun because it was similar to god.
jesus (god) said that he is life. life exists, therefore god exists.
A theory which has no evidence to support it.