Texas/Arizona Minutemen?
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crazy151drinker
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Build a big wall. Its that simple. Have checkpoints and give them work permits. Then make sure they leave.
Will it happen? No.
Its not as simple as "lets go build a wall". If you look at how much trouble they have had just trying to upgrade and extend the wall on the California border you'll see why it will never happen. The current tactic of fighting any wall building is "environental concerns".
Will it happen? No.
Its not as simple as "lets go build a wall". If you look at how much trouble they have had just trying to upgrade and extend the wall on the California border you'll see why it will never happen. The current tactic of fighting any wall building is "environental concerns".
mikasa11 said:
So the congress just believes anything that the President tells them? Is that true all the time or just for this particular incident? And why is he haviing such a hard time with the Supreme Court nominee if congress believe whateve the President says? And why are they holding up so much of what the president wants? And why are they always on TV bitching n' moaning if they always do wahtever he wants?
They had access to the same intelligence as the administration. The intelligence services may have over-estimated the threat, but it wasn't lies from anyone ...if it had been, don't you think there'd already be impeachment hearings and news hounds doing investigative reporting and court actions and attorneys and special prosecutors, etc? Why is it that you don't see any of that? It's 'cause there wasn't any actual lying, it was misinterpration of the intelligence by many, many people from the undercover operatives all the way up to the administration.
But you and those like you don't want to consider that .....you'd prefer to blame President Bush 'cause it's more fun to bash him than to see through the fog of intelligence and numerous people involved. Easier to yell at and blame ONE person than the entire intelligence services of several nations.
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crazy151drinker said:
Interesting that you say that, then in the very next comment, you say: "Its not as simple as "lets go build a wall"."
So I'm led to believe that you're either high or don't know wha the hell ye're talking about! Ye're for it, but ye're against it?
But even so, the latter part of your post is correct ...the fence won't really work. And that, of course, is the reason that the Minutemen are patrolling the borders. They're helping the Border Patrol, but liberal doo-gooders are all upset because they're patrolling the borders and helping????? How the hell does that make sense? Ahh, but wait, it's just liberal doo-gooder bullshit, ain't it!! I also think that it's funny how the liberals seem to think that if we put uniforms on them and pay them as Border Patrol agents, then everything is fine?!?!? ....LOL! Ahh, liberal doo-gooders speak ....ain't it fun?
Baron Max
Why should they not. I'd also point out that the majority of congress is conservative so even if they disagree they're still going to vote for his policy's.
He's not; he should be having a hard time considering he's replacing a moderate with a far right winger.
Who Bush? Nooo, he just makes up lies and false stories about people who oppose him. No need to defend your position if you can take down your opponents with bullshit.
To my knowledge there is a special prosecutor (Valerie Plame). The media also barely ever touches on stuff like this. (For conservatives.)If this was a democrat the media would be all over it.
Yep, Congress did, however, the adminstration went out of their way to manipulate their intellegence to make it fit their agenda for war in Iraq. That's the big difference. This is why information and charisma is power because you can make anyone believe anything you want.
If Congress would have had access to all of the same information as the adminstration had, as opposed to having most of it filtered out, the war in Iraq would have never happened because none of that information was solid. Only when filtering out only what the adminstration wanted Congress to see, does it look solid. This is why the people that control the information are more powerful than our actual leaders. Our leaders can only base their decisions off information that is given to them by the lower ranking people that actually do control that information. So if those lower ranking people, or in this case, the adminstration, want things to go their way, they only need to show the higher ups only what they want them to see to fit their plan. And why should Congress think otherwise? Why would the adminstration want to lie? And for that, they're flippin morons because they know they're dealing with politics which is the most corrupt job ever, even worse than lawyers. When it comes to something as important as war, don't blindly rush into it.
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Neildo said:
Ahh, now I see! We should start blaming first year intelligence officers, huh? ...LOL!!
I just don't see how y'all can see the system for what it is and what it does. There's no way this side of hell that anyone could "dominate" US politics ...it's just too damned complex. I'm amazed that y'all, being mostly young kids in high school, are so smart, so well-read, so well educated and experienced, that you can see such complex issues in such simplistic terms!
Ahh, to be a kid again ....when I was young, I knew it all, too.
Baron Max
Prove to me where that statement is incorrect. Surely with all the numerous and complex checks and balances in place, you'll be able to easily do so.
That's because most things are pretty damned simplistic. It's just that people like you thinking everything is so complex makes one automatically assume whatever situation comes across will be complex, making all the simple things happen right under our noses due to instant dismissal.
Kid? Bzzzt, try again. Quit with your copouts and petty insults trying to make yourself sound more knowledable. Only unimportant, simple-minded idiots will side with you when you try and use those tactics. I forget, aren't you a Christian? If so, it sure does show.
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crazy151drinker
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"So I'm led to believe that you're either high or don't know wha the hell ye're talking about! Ye're for it, but ye're against it?"
LOL
No Max. What I am saying is that the Solution is simple. You build a wall.
However, implementing that Solution is a whole different story.
Im all for it. Take a cue from the Isrealies with their big wall. It worked for the Chinese once upon a time
LOL
No Max. What I am saying is that the Solution is simple. You build a wall.
However, implementing that Solution is a whole different story.
Im all for it. Take a cue from the Isrealies with their big wall. It worked for the Chinese once upon a time
You do realize that the Great Wall of China was to keep the barbarian invaders INSIDE Chinese territory (to slaughter them easier due to not being able to retreat), and not out of it, right? Sounds bad for this to apply to illegal immigration, unless we too slaughter the invading immigrants.
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Facial
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Neildo said:You do realize that the Great Wall of China was to keep the barbarian invaders INSIDE Chinese territory (to slaughter them easier due to not being able to retreat), and not out of it, right? Sounds bad for this to apply to illegal immigration, unless we too slaughter the invading immigrants.
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And you know it depends on which "Great Wall" you're talking about, right?
The Great Wall (all of them collectively) damn near economically broke the nation and cost it a great many good men. They would have done better to use the resources on strengthening themselves internally and forging new trade routes. That way they would have been tough enough not to need to worry about the barbarians.
I figure the mongols actually had a pretty good grasp of things. They didn't need fortifications. They defended by simply not being there when the enemy attacked... and then hitting them where it hurts until they were incapable of fighting and had to surrender.
I figure the mongols actually had a pretty good grasp of things. They didn't need fortifications. They defended by simply not being there when the enemy attacked... and then hitting them where it hurts until they were incapable of fighting and had to surrender.
crazy151drinker
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Well I dont think we need a 40' thick wall.....
I think we should just shoot any moron with an iq of less than 130 or so.
Baron Max said:
Be a lot more practical than building a wall to keep everyone out, or patrolling the border to keep everyone out.
I think one of the best ideas that I've ever heard is that we have an open hunting season on illegal immigrants, say, within five miles of the border. My guess is that there'd be a lot, A LOT, less illegal border crossings .....except at very damned well guarded LEGAL crossing points.
Baron Max
Baron Max
I'd be there in a heartbeat. What would your gun of choice be for shooting the illegals or the low iq types? I think I'd choose a .50 cal sniper rifle, and for the close in work, a plain ole shreader.