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there are a lot of those dictators thet the U.S. stopped supporting when they started to spread their little dictatorships beyond their own countries
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Do as I say, not as I do?
 
spidergoat, but the world changed, and he decided to step out on his own, and threaten the stability of the world economy, he threatened the oil, and we couldn't have Europe threatened with a economic depression, as it would have effects far beyond Europe alone, The funny thing is most of the oil that he threatened was being shipped to Europe.
He got to big for his britches, and caused trouble that couldn't be tolerated.
 
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“ Originally Posted by Buffalo Roam
there are a lot of those dictators thet the U.S. stopped supporting when they started to spread their little dictatorships beyond their own countries ”
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Nope, only those that no longer wanted to do what they were told by the US. THEN it was time to depose them.
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That is what I thought I said, the world does change and when you fail to comply with the people paying the bill in your country what do you think is going to happen, if you fail to do what your boss requires of you what happens? he take you out does he not, out the door you go, hit the street, same in world politics.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
That is what I thought I said, the world does change and when you fail to comply with the people paying the bill in your country what do you think is going to happen, if you fail to do what your boss requires of you what happens? he take you out does he not, out the door you go, hit the street, same in world politics.
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So you see the US as the Worlds' Boss?
 
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Nickelodeon



That is what I thought I said, the world does change and when you fail to comply with the people paying the bill in your country what do you think is going to happen, if you fail to do what your boss requires of you what happens? he take you out does he not, out the door you go, hit the street, same in world politics.
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Don't you mean people hogging your national resources at the expense of the local people's lives?:rolleyes:
 
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Like when he decided to sell the oil for Euros? Damn him!!
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The Euro didn't exist until Jan. 2002, and by that time Saddam was under U.N. sanctions and did not have the ability to decide what currency he would sell his oil in, that decision was being made by the U.N. and it seem that when Saddam did sell his oil under the table it was for Dollars.
 
What hubris.
http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa_usa.html
The USA Lectures the World
The USA likes to lecture the rest of the world without getting their own house in order first:

* In the 2000 presidential election, the candidate with the most number of votes failed to gain the presidency because of the convoluted voting system used in the USA. There were allegations of voter intimidation in Florida where the winning candidate's brother was governor. The presidency was awarded by the Supreme Court which had been staffed with friends of the winning candidate's father.

o Even so, the USA lectures other countries about democracy.

* Fundamentalist Christians in the USA shoot doctors who carry out abortions. They have attempted to ban the teaching of evolution in schools. They approve of, encourage and finance Israel's illegal occupation of Palestinian territory for religious reasons.

o Even so, the USA lectures countries about religious fundamentalism.

* The USA refuses to abide by the Geneva Conventions in its treatment of prisoners in Cuba, Iraq and Afghanistan. The USA consistantly vetos United Nations resolutions on Israel, human rights, fair trade and arms treaties. The USA has ignored a World Court judgement concering Nicaragua. The USA unilaterally imposes economic sanctions on nearly 50% of the world's population. For many years the USA refused to pay its financial dues to the United Nations. The USA refuses to ratify the Tokyo Agreement on Climate Change even though it is the world's largest emitter of Carbon Dioxide, the main greenhouse gas.

o Even so, the USA lectures (certain) countries and threatens them if they violate United Nations resolutions or treaties.

* The USA refuses to allow inspectors to examine its chemical or biological weapons facilities. The USA sells arms to regimes that are undemocratic (Saudi Arabia), oppress their minorities (Turkey, Indonesia) or are an occupying power (Israel). The USA spends more on arms than the next six countries put together.

o Even so, the USA insists on weapons inspections for others, criticises countries like North Korea and Iran (for "gun-running") and inisists on trying (selected) war criminals from other countries.

* The USA has supported some of the world's nastiest dictators (Pinochet in Chile, Duvalier in Haiti, the Saudi Arabian royal family). The USA has trained some of the world's nastiest death squads and secret police (El Salvador, the Contras in Nicaragua, the Shah of Iran). The USA has financially and militarilly supported Israel as it terrorises the Palestinian population, takes their land and ethnically cleanses large areas of the West Bank.

o Even so, the USA criticises countries for "supporting terrorism".

* It is illegal in the USA for foreigners to make contributions to political parties or to interfere in the USA elections.

o Even so, the USA pumps money into favoured candidates in many countries around the world. It uses "economic coersion" to ensure that the USA's favoured candidate wins. It will also appoint the members of a country's government to put a "local face " onto an occupation.

* The USA has used economic blackmail to force countries (like Thailand) to accept the selling of USA tobacco (and advertising) even though many countries are attempting to cut down on tobacco use. Tobacco contains the addictive drug, nicotine.

o Even so, the USA bombs parts of Colombia accusing it of "drug-running" and shoots down aircraft in Peru accused of running drugs.

* The USA subsidises large parts of its industry giving them an unfair advantage in world trade. The USA places tariffs on goods coming from developing countries making it difficult for these countries to trade in a fair market place. Non USA-citizens are not allowed to own media in the USA.

o Even so, the USA insists that other countries remove subsidies from their goods and industries and "open up" their markets to USA goods by removing tariffs and to allow foreign ownership.

* The USA requested the Taliban government in Afghansiatn to hand over Osama bin-Laden, who was accused of terrorist crimes. When the Taliban refused, the USA invaded and bombed Afghanistan, killing over 3000 people.

o Even so, the USA refuses to hand over the then-boss of USA company Union Carbide (Warren Anderson) to the democratic government of India to answer charges of culpable homicide after the explosion in Bhopal in 1984 that killed 20,000 people and has left hundreds of thousands chronically injured. The USA also refused to hand over the brutal Shah of Iran to the Iranians in the 1980s when he was wanted for crimes committed during his 25 years of USA-backed dictatorship.

* The USA organises and televises trials of its enemies accused of war crimes and crimes aginst humanity.

o Even so, the USA refuses to do the same for its allies or citizens. For example, Henry Kissinger organised the secret bombing of Cambodia in the early 1970s - an act that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians. The USA refuses to let its citizens be subject to the International Criminal Court and has coerced dozens of countries to sign special waivers for USA citizens, imposing sanctions on those that refused.

* The USA threatens and invades countries like Iraq and Iran after accusing them of secretely developing nuclear weapons.

o Even so, the USA stores 480 nuclear weapons under its control in six European countries, including the UK and Turkey.

For many people in the world, USA actions appear to embody the principle of one law for the USA, another law for the rest of the world. This can be rephrased as "do as we say not as we do".
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Buffalo Roam said:
The Euro didn't exist until Jan. 2002
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You speaking to an European here Buffy, not an American. The Euro was introduced in 1999.

In 2000, Iraq converted all its oil transactions under the Oil for Food program to euros. When U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003, it returned oil sales from the euro to the U.S. dollar.
 
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Buffalo Roam said:
samcdkey, no.
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Bullshit. Your earlier spew basically admits that the US doesnt give a fuck about ideas like "freedom" and "democracy", just self interest. And if you prop up a dictatorship (even if that prevents democacy) you are comfortable with that. Have you ever wondered what the population in these countries feel about that? What do you think the average Iraqi who sufered under Saddam feels about the US support of Saddam?
 
Buffalo Roam said:
spidergoat, but the world changed, and he decided to step out on his own, and threaten the stability of the world economy, he threatened the oil, and we couldn't have Europe threatened with a economic depression, as it would have effects far beyond Europe alone, The funny thing is most of the oil that he threatened was being shipped to Europe.
He got to big for his britches, and caused trouble that couldn't be tolerated.
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Way to parrot the company line. Saddam claimed Kuwait was flooding the market in order to destroy Iraq economically at a time when he was rebuilding after a bloody war with Iran. The oil would flow either way, but Saddam would sell it at a price that reflected it's true worth. Cheap oil was a political issue for Bush 41, and that's what was behind the Gulf War (with a little wag the dog thrown in).
 
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Way to parrot the company line. Saddam claimed Kuwait was flooding the market in order to destroy Iraq economically at a time when he was rebuilding after a bloody war with Iran. The oil would flow either way, but Saddam would sell it at a price that reflected it's true worth. Cheap oil was a political issue for Bush 41, and that's what was behind the Gulf War (with a little wag the dog thrown in).
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are you serious?

hello little goat, time to wake upe for school.

the whole world runs on oil, every nation buys it.
 
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