Just like a religion that said people of your religion killed your savior. It's all so stupid.
Suspicion, Fear and Hatred of Jews
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Just like a religion that said people of your religion killed your savior. It's all so stupid.
Me-Ki-Gal is right. Only the Vatican switched their fiscal capital alliance from the Templars to the Zionists. My reading likewise suggests that the majority of the Templars went underground and moved their base of operations. Although they may have lost much of their assets and sacrificed some of their top leaders, I believe their knowledge, connections and power remained largely intact.
The key to finding the links between the Templars knowledge and elite bloodlines is the loss of history between the supposed destruction of the Templars, and the re-emergence of the gentile elite interest groups that replaced them. How are they connected?
For recommended reading I would suggest everything you can get a hold of about the historical accounts of the Anglo-Scottish wars. The crown was supported by the Zionists, the Scots by the exiled Templars.
Not many people put one and one together and realize that Andrew Carnegie was a first generation immigrant from Scotland, probably from the family of a 33rd degree Scottish rite free mason. People have often commented in the media how all of our presidents are related by blood. What blood? Templar blood. Scottish Rite Freemasonry blood. It's not a conspiracy. . . it's just a genetic fact.
In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Me-Ki-Gal is of Scottish ancestry as well. Seems he's pretty well educated in this stuff.
I had a "friend" in high school, he was actually good friends with my other best friends. We rubbed each other the wrong way. He didn't care much for a Scotsman raised in a catholic family who had been read The Scottish Chiefs by Jane Porter when he was a kid and had some idea about his families history. I liked him well enough though. I had never met a kid from a Jewish family, I found him fascinating.
We never saw eye to eye on middle east issues though. His family had raised him to actually believe that other peoples were less than "his" people. He viewed Persians as a lower form of culture and humanity, and Arabs as slightly better than animals. He actually saw nothing wrong with apartheid and discriminatory laws, wages and rights for different groups of people in Israel. He told me there was a difference between the Torah and the Talmud, and having been raised a Christian, I could only ever understand the Torah, and I should try reading the Talmud. :bugeye: Whatever. I don't need to read more holy scripture if it just tries to justify bigotry, racism, genocide, slavery, and inequality. One dusty tomb is enough. lol
You're right. It really has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with control.
My father said something meaningful to me once:
"Why is it that when I am being good with my money I am being a Jew but when a non Jew is good with their money they're being smart?"
So what if Jews are good with money? Who cares? To try and penalize them for it is nothing short of communism and discrimination.
And lets face it, Jews are smart with their money, Israel is one of the few countries to be relatively unscathed by the economic downturn in the world. Why? Because they invest in the things that people always want and always need and that won't be affected by it.
- Mark Twain
The essential question is whether it is right to treat Jews in general as being better then non Jews at handling money on average. On average I would say yes, not that non Jews can't be good or excellent at handling money or that Jews can't stink at it. But there are more non Jews that stink at handling money then there are Jews.
The second question is whether it is justified to penalize the Jews for being so good at it. Absolutely not.
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dude! The seed . The house that Jack built ? ringing any penny bells there sport .
Zimbabwe!!
Party hounds have lots of sayings for savers . Miserly , Frugal, I like the one squeeze a penny till it screams the best. I can squeeze a penny till it screams . Now that is a miracle to make metal scream out . You must admit.
Look the money flow is blocked or all would be as it was pre heat up of markets . Except consumption is the new dirty word so it is doomed to fail anyway. That will have to work its course through the system . Painful as that might be
Now you say "your reading" as a way of trying to make an argument towards your credibility. But you fail to suggest the credibility of what exactly it is your reading.
Were you making a point or were you just trying to show your smart enough to know what a synonym is?
I do think it has a lot to do with religion. Most of them do not value doubt, so people don't doubt themselves. That creates arrogance and self-righteousness.
No one's saving me.
Me? When? Where? I don't remember doing that. . . .
If I remember right, our learned and illustrious scholar Fraggle Rocker cleared up the facts of history on this point, firmly establishing the origins of Zionism. It is instructive to remember that use of capital is power. So while the Vatican may have told its' followers one thing, it still engaged in the use of capital through other means.
This of course is technically incorrect. All good Christians knew they could invest their money. They just weren't allowed to loan their money at interest. Their are many ways to earn a profit on an investment with out using usury. If you invest in an enterprise, and its' profits are more than the original investment, you make a profit. No interest is necessary to turn a profit. This is a common value espoused and promoted in the NT, which always supersedes the OT.
Although this parable is meant to show that those who have wisdom, or truth, should make it multiply, it is also a lesson about making capital investments for the good of society, and seeking a return on those investments. In such a way, the Christ ridicules the nature of interest banking as well. . .
To say Christians didn't know the words of their lord is. . . well, ignorant? And to say that they would just blindly accept that the only way to fund projects requiring capital was to do it with sin? :bugeye: Now, if to say this is the only way to raise limitless sources of capital quickly? Yeah, you're probably right. But what sort of endeavor would you need to do that for? :shrug: Oh yeah. . . I forgot. . . massive wars of conscription.
Man that Jesus guy was one wise fellow, huh?
Just about the first thing my folks always say to me every time they see me is how much did you save this week?
Did you know a dollars worth of pennies minted before 1982 total melt value is currently $2.34?
http://www.coinflation.com/coins/1909-1982-Lincoln-Cent-Penny-Value.html
The people that are in control? Whether their families are outwardly Jewish, Christian, etc. are more concerned with control and power. They do not defer to religious texts or spiritual teachers at all. Not most of them anyhow. I am sure of this. If they did, the world would not be in the shape it is in.
The interpretations of these. . . these religions? They too are about control, not about liberation of the individual spirit or of humanity as a whole. Think about it. If everyone did as the Christ suggested, or if everyone lived the awakened life that the Buddha recommended, what need would there be for temples, churches, mosques, religious leaders, and their attendant power structures? What need would there be for governments or militaries? What need would there be for banks and currency? No sir, it isn't about the religions, it's about control.
I'm not sure, but in most religious traditions, there is a healthy regard for growth and seeking of the truth. That implies that although the sacredness of their holy text is not in dispute, the nature of truth is something to ever be contemplated, debated, and sought. At the point when the leaders of these religions have decided for their followers what truth is? Then no, it isn't about religion, or in a wider sense, spirituality; it is about control.
Why this system of control? Because religion dictates it by it's very nature. Christianity is a totalitarian structure and the society that lives by those values is also totalitarian. It describes a state in which evil is always working to undermine the good, so it's never well enough to leave things alone. Freedom of thought could undermine the eternal destiny of millions of souls. It's essentially a control structure that perpetuates itself.
That's an interesting take. But the same could be said of Judaism, Islam, or any of the other countless interpretations of the countless other belief systems. However, I for one, do not share this view. I don't think you bothered to watch the video that the image I posted linked to, which was titled, The Story of Your Enslavement. Because, neither you or I follow any of the interpretations of any of these ancient religions, do we? So we're not controlled, nor is anyone else that refuses to subscribe to the dogma of ancient religions. And yet, if you watch this video, I think you will agree that individually we cannot help but be controlled by the system of slavery that has been set up by these "tax farms" which enable the worlds elites to control the destiny of the world's masses.
Zionism is just one elite interest group that grew out of an ethnic-religious segment (Judaism) of the world's population that now controls much of what is going on. Is this the only one? Do they hold all the cards? No, not by a long shot. But they hold enough of them to possibly cause the spark, or play the a defining role in a conflagration which will realign the world's monetary system. As we speak, the pieces for this global war are being moved about, and preparations are being made. And the world's monetary system is what it is, and always has been about. Not religion. Religion is a distraction for the ignorant masses. Because who ever has the power to control the issuing of credit and manipulation of it's value, has the power to control the world.
"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws."
~Mayer Amschel Rothschild
Why do you suppose this international banker would say this?
Of course I've taken economics courses. I understand the basics, Keynesian, and Austrian schools of thought. I also understand that all schools of economic thought are merely humanities attempt to control society. The very study of economics is called the "dismal science" and in that, the only truth there is that it is indeed dismal, but a science? huh. . . . far from it.
From the point of view of the millionaire? That money does, just sit in the bank. I am aware that supposedly the bank then is able to "lend out" loans based on the amount it has on deposit, but at anytime that millionaire decides to come collect his deposit. . . guess what? It's there. So no, it does just sit there. What it enables the bank to do, is create more debt. And really, this is why the whole system is engineered to fail. Because there will never be enough money in the system to pay off all the principle and the interest accrued on all debt that is outstanding in the system, more money needs to be printed.
Ahhh. . . But there is a caveat. You see, back in the early part of the twentieth century, the American voter was asleep, not paying attention, celebrating Christmas and Chanukah. . . or maybe the average American Jew was happy about this development?
Teasing, I think Jewish people are the same as everyone else. I have no suspicion just b/c someone is Jewish. I digress. . . . And the Federal Reserve Act was enacted December 23, 1913. The effect of this was that every note printed and loaned to the government needed to be payed back with interest. . . necessitating, in the end, the printing of either more notes, or the acquisition of income from outside the system. Foreign sources? The problem with this of course, is that nearly every other central bank on the planet works on the private bank, fractional reserve principle. How can you steal Peter to pay Paul? There will still be more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, necessitating the printing of more notes, causing more debt, etc. you get the point. Check out Europe's or the U.S.'s, or any country that has a private central bank. . . you'll see a trend since WWII. Before the Iraq war there were like, oh, six or so countries that didn't have private central banks associated with the Fractional Reserve Banking Empire located in the City of London. They were, this is from memory, so I could be wrong here. . . Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Libya. I'm not sure about N. Korea.
Do you have any clue what nepotism is? :bugeye:
You see? This is the sort of arrogance, this is the attitude that breeds hatred of Jews. Jewish people are so clueless of their bigotry.
:worship: Of course, their ability to work with money is in their genes. I have an idea. . . why not just let them have the power to create money out of thin air, so the rest of the world's populations can slave for them, give them interest payments for that money, so they and their children never have to work ever again. We will install them in the banks, media, and top positions of corporations and governments of every nation on the planet. How does that sound? Then the whole world will be grateful for their service?
I can't take credit for this idea of course. This idea comes straight from the Zionists. And there is a "forged and plagiarized" book you can read about all these ideas in as well. Funny thing, if you pay attention, you can see these things happening before our very eyes in the world we live in today. . . unless you don't want to look. I've heard it said that something like 80% of the plans in that book have already come to pass. hmmm. . . Sometimes turning your head and not looking to see the truth is easier.
the point is there are 2 types . People that save for a rainy day and people that live by " when its gone its gone .
They will call each other names cause when the ones that live by "when its gone" when its gone they will come for the rainy day fund
Do you have any clue what nepotism is? :bugeye:
You see? This is the sort of arrogance, this is the attitude that breeds hatred of Jews. Jewish people are so clueless of their bigotry.
:worship: Of course, their ability to work with money is in their genes. I have an idea. . . why not just let them have the power to create money out of thin air, so the rest of the world's populations can slave for them, give them interest payments for that money, so they and their children never have to work ever again. We will install them in the banks, media, and top positions of corporations and governments of every nation on the planet. How does that sound? Then the whole world will be grateful for their service?
I can't take credit for this idea of course. This idea comes straight from the Zionists. And there is a "forged and plagiarized" book you can read about all these ideas in as well. Funny thing, if you pay attention, you can see these things happening before our very eyes in the world we live in today. . . unless you don't want to look. I've heard it said that something like 80% of the plans in that book have already come to pass. hmmm. . . Sometimes turning your head and not looking to see the truth is easier.
I'm not being arrogant, I'm being realistic here. You can spread all that politically correct BS you like. But Jews represent a completely disproportionate amount of the world's wealth, science, innovation, and have been at the forefront of numerous other innovations.
It's not in their genes, as a Jew I can tell you what it is and its in how you are brought up. In Judaism education is valued above almost all else. It always has been. That's what has given the Jews their advantages in the world.
By the way, I think that idea is as idiotic as they come.
I'm tired of this politically correct self righteous bullshit. Lets face facts.
If someone in the US is Hispanic there is a higher chance that they are an illegal immigrant then a similar Caucasian. That's a fact.
A black person is more likely to end up in jail then a Caucasian person. That is a fact.
These are facts, are they unpleasant? Hell yes.
Should they exist? No.
The difference between nepotism and reality is this.
Nepotism would be me saying all that stuff about the Jews being more intelligent, and that it is inbuilt and that nothing will change it.
Reality is me saying that the Jews have succeeded because out of every other system of belief in the world they somehow won the lottery and managed to get it right early on enough that it has kept them alive. And that if other people were smart they would try and figure out just what they did so well to survive for so long and to learn from it rather then just bitch and moan.
Just because a black man is more likely to end up in jail then a Caucasian does not mean it has to stay that way.
That's my beliefs.
Reality is reality, reality does not believe in morals, does not believe in ethics, does not believe in politics, nor race, nor creed, nor nation, nor person. Reality doesn't give a shit what you think.
That's my opinion, I don't give a shit towards morality nor race nor politics, etc...
Facts are facts, can they be changed? Yes. But one way in which they can't be changed is if you pretend they don't exist.
-Mark Twain
Are you saying that these things are not true? That these statistics are false?
Because they're true, if your petty morality or ethics force you to turn a blind eye towards reality then you need to reevaluate your perception of the world around you.
the point is all cultures need to learn from each other . Black foot people still live today . Do they have something to offer . Hell yes . To understand each other is monumental .
The black foot understands sustainability that we are just starting to understand in high production world with out end .
Now we can see an end by science and more sustainable models are needed . It may be cliche the word " Sustainable " yet we have to swell to close to 10 billion people still so you can see why you might keep hearing the word for some time to come
We have a lot to learn from each other and I for one feel very lucky to be hear at the cross roads of information with all of you . Think of all the people that will not ever approach the subject . We are lucky to be able to talk about it friends
The black foot understands sustainability that we are just starting to understand in high production world with out end .
Now we can see an end by science and more sustainable models are needed . It may be cliche the word " Sustainable " yet we have to swell to close to 10 billion people still so you can see why you might keep hearing the word for some time to come
We have a lot to learn from each other and I for one feel very lucky to be hear at the cross roads of information with all of you . Think of all the people that will not ever approach the subject . We are lucky to be able to talk about it friends