At least our mocking words make sense.cutey gal said:those who mocks are weak and haven't a sensible words to reply with
And here I thought the only book about Islam that gave its true meaning was the Quran. There are more out there? Gal, if Islam is the true religion for you, then woohoo for you. Don't try to convert others. You are happy with your religion, others are happy with their religion and lack of religion. Stop trying to ram it down our throats.but if u try and buy a book about islam (in its true meaning) u'll give ur mind a chance to think before answering what's the true religion.......
I usually find my heart beats faster when I've gone jogging. What you fail to realise gal is that it is not the religion who has given to humanity, but the people within the religion. The same goes for any religion or non religion. It is not the organisation, but the people within the organisation. All the supposed discoveries listed in the Quran and in other religious texts weren't discovered by the religion itself, but by man.u'll find ur heart beating fast from what this religion has given to the whole humanity
I have yet to read any holy book that mentions pimples for example. Just the everyday run of the mill zit. We've all had them. Yet they aren't mentioned.if u try and read the holy quran u'll find that from the very small part of ur body to the the great stars in this universe is mentioned in this holy book
One would think that with reading, one would become educated. How wrong I was. I'd be suprised at any individual finding all the answers to all the questions they've ever had during their lifetime in one book. For example, does your holy book explain how to cure AIDS or cancer? That's a question that plagues mankind. So what's the answer gal? You just claimed that every question can be answered from your holy book? Actually, I pose that to all religions who claim superiority over others.i'm not joking........i've my proof .......it's the book itself.........open and read ......u'll find an answer to every little question in ur mind and more ,
I am sorely tempted to sit down with my legs crossed and go auuummm right about now.put all the negative thoughts in ur mind away and think clearly in this amazing book
I find my truth in living life on a daily basis gal.i'm sure u'll find the truth and tell me honestly cos maybe i'm wrong and maybe u r wrong
I had bacon as well today... BLT actually. And a pound of bacon in one sitting?Tiassa said:I actually ate a pound of bacon today. I'm told I'll never make it in the entertainment business ....
Bells said:
And a pound of bacon in one sitting
That last line calls into serious question your entire post.Bells said:cutey galYou are happy with your religion, others are happy with their religion and lack of religion. Stop trying to ram it down our throats.
Ah little rock..Ophiolite said:That last line calls into serious question your entire post.
You go to the section of the forum titled Religion.
You open a thread titled stop for a moment it's the right religion.
You see the sub-title of the thread - there is only one god - Allah.
Nevertheless You continue to read the post and to think about it. Then you have the unmitigated temerity to accuse cutey gal of trying to ram it down your throat.
May I recommend a course - say, Logic 101.
A good story but I think there's something wrong. True, everything we do wrong is allowed by God, and so everything that we do wrong will have a greater good. But when we do something wrong, we do not necessarily partake in this greater good. For example, if Bob murders someone, the police attempting to find and capture Bob do good, a greater good perhaps than the crime of murder. But that doesn't mean Bob will partake in this greater good.You, too, are an instrument of God's will. But it may be that you'll never convert anyone, and that the lessons learned and utility created by your endeavors are meant to affect you, and your understanding of what God has revealed.
Have faith in God. Each day, each moment, each heartbeat, is God's will. True faith comes when you let God point the direction and lead the way. All you or I or anybody else needs to do is have faith and follow.
cutey gal said:Excuse me!!
Hmm interesting. But if Bob murdered a person who later on in his life would have gotten behind the wheel of his car while drunk and killed a whole family, Bob would have ensured the greater good by murdering this individual, and not the police for finding and capturing Bob, who had saved a whole family. The possibilities are endless when looking at the utilitarian argument.okinrus said:A good story but I think there's something wrong. True, everything we do wrong is allowed by God, and so everything that we do wrong will have a greater good. But when we do something wrong, we do not necessarily partake in this greater good. For example, if Bob murders someone, the police attempting to find and capture Bob do good, a greater good perhaps than the crime of murder. But that doesn't mean Bob will partake in this greater good.
Bells said:I shall ask again gal. Where in the Quran does it explain to us how to cure cancer or AIDS? You did say it could answer any question, did you not? Please show me the verse(s) in the Quran where it explains how to cure cancer, or even, say, the flu or the common cold. Hmmm? I await your response with great anticipation.
cutey gal said:D) The Quran on the Cerebrum: God has said in the Quran about one of the evil unbelievers who forbade the Prophet Muhammad from praying at the Kaaba:
No! If he does not stop, We will take him by the naseyah (front of the head), a lying, sinful naseyah (front of the head)! (Quran, 96:15-16)
Why did the Quran describe the front of the head as being lying and sinful? Why didn’t the Quran say that the person was lying and sinful? What is the relationship between the front of the head and lying and sinfulness?
If we look into the skull at the front of the head, we will find the prefrontal area of the cerebrum (see figure 12). What does physiology tell us about the function of this area? A book entitled Essentials of Anatomy & Physiology says about this area, “The motivation and the foresight to plan and initiate movements occur in the anterior portion of the frontal lobes, the prefrontal area. This is a region of association cortex...”1 Also the book says, “In relation to its involvement in motivation, the prefrontal area is also thought to be the functional center for aggression....”2
Figure 12: Functional regions of the left hemisphere of the cerebral cortex. The prefrontal area is located at the front of the cerebral cortex. (Essentials of Anatomy & Physiology, Seeley and others, p. 210.) (Click on the image to enlarge it.)
So, this area of the cerebrum is responsible for planning, motivating, and initiating good and sinful behavior and is responsible for the telling of lies and the speaking of truth. Thus, it is proper to describe the front of the head as lying and sinful when someone lies or commits a sin, as the Quran has said, “...A lying, sinful naseyah (front of the head)!”
Scientists have only discovered these functions of the prefrontal area in the last sixty years, according to Professor Keith L. Moore.3
F) The Quran on Deep Seas and Internal Waves:
God has said in the Quran:
Or (the unbelievers’ state) is like the darkness in a deep sea. It is covered by waves, above which are waves, above which are clouds. Darknesses, one above another. If a man stretches out his hand, he cannot see it.... (Quran, 24:40)
This verse mentions the darkness found in deep seas and oceans, where if a man stretches out his hand, he cannot see it. The darkness in deep seas and oceans is found around a depth of 200 meters and below. At this depth, there is almost no light (see figure 15). Below a depth of 1000 meters there is no light at all.1 Human beings are not able to dive more than forty meters without the aid of submarines or special equipment. Human beings cannot survive unaided in the deep dark part of the oceans, such as at a depth of 200 meters.
Scientists have recently discovered this darkness by means of special equipment and submarines that have enabled them to dive into the depths of the oceans.
We can also understand from the following sentences in the previous verse, “...in a deep sea. It is covered by waves, above which are waves, above which are clouds....”, that the deep waters of seas and oceans are covered by waves, and above these waves are other waves. It is clear that the second set of waves are the surface waves that we see, because the verse mentions that above the second waves there are clouds. But what about the first waves? Scientists have recently discovered that there are internal waves which “occur on density interfaces between layers of different densities.”2 (see figure 16).
Figure 16: Internal waves at interface between two layers of water of different densities. One is dense (the lower one), the other one is less dense (the upper one). (Oceanography, Gross, p. 204.)
The internal waves cover the deep waters of seas and oceans because the deep waters have a higher density than the waters above them. Internal waves act like surface waves. They can also break, just like surface waves. Internal waves cannot be seen by the human eye, but they can be detected by studying temperature or salinity changes at a given location.3
from.........www.islam-guide.com
Ah yes. And how did Mohammed die again? In battle? No. Was he murdered? No. He became old, got sick and died from his illness. Hell even the Pope has Parkinson. My uncle was a devout Catholic and he passed away last year after suffering 15 years of chronic heart disease. Hmmm.. you were saying?Yorda said:Yeah, there is a cure for cancer and AIDS in Quran, and even in the Bible. Just follow God and you'll never be sick anymore!
Agreed, but irrelevant.Bells said:In case you weren't aware, people can discuss religion without conversion. In fact it occurs every day in "the section of the forum titled Religion".
Bells said:Ah little rock..
In case you misunderstood little rock, this is a forum, free for all members to peruse and reply as they wish. I read her thread and disagreed with her message. She is not discussing religion, she is trying to convert.
Let's see now... discussions of religion in a Religion forum.. attempted conversion into religion taking place in a Religion forum... Hmmm.. Forum lends its meaning to discussion, non? Not conversion. Do you actually see the slight difference that exists? Look carefully, it is there. And when you finally discover that difference, you'll see why I had the 'temerity' to tell gal to stop trying to ram it down our throats. Had she discussed her religion that she thinks is the one true religion for her, I would not have accused her of it. Instead, she tells everyone why it should be the one religion for us. Again little rock, there is a difference.
Quite impossible. Of the hijackers on 9/11, ALL were moslem. Of the attackers of the USS Cole, ALL were moslem. Of the bombers of the night club in Bali, ALL were moslem. Of the attackers of the US embassies in Africa, ALL were moslem. Etc., etc., etc.cutey gal said:i ask from everyone to try and put away his thoughts about islam and let ur mind work clearly without the interfering of what is happening in the world nowadays ...
You'll get the same message from the Christian Bible, the Jewish Torah, the Hindu Bhagavad Gita, the Janist Umasvati's Tattvarthasutra, the Zoroastrian Avesta, and every other religious text you can lay your bloody hands on. Every religion, Islam included, proclaims itself to be the one and only true religion.cutey gal said:...but if u try and buy a book about islam (in its true meaning) u'll give ur mind a chance to think before answering what's the true religion...
Yes. Nothing but blood and death.cuty gal said:...u'll find ur heart beating fast from what this religion has given to the whole humanity ...
Perhaps in your small mind, but not in mine.cuty gal said:...if u try and read the holy quran...u'll find an answer to every little question in ur mind and more ,...
If I were you, I'd think long and hard about that.cuty gal said:...maybe i'm wrong...