Spirituality in Atheism
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Thats silly it will sound like I am a theist.
They're experiences like any other. There is not much to appreciate in sorrow, suffering, and pain per se' but there may be related concepts to appreciate. For example, if someone in the family dies then you can always appreciate their memory.
WHAT is this,...spirituality??
Who cares? I don't care to evangelise, only to explore.
Spirituality is what is left when you set aside the fact that you are a chemical biological system that runs on energy transfer.
Everything else about you constitutes your spirit or atman.
you asked a question
i replied with my particular notions of spirituality
you then say you do not care
why?
your loss
a version of god(s) might lie within the discipline awaiting discovery
then again it might be a devastating repudiation of that notion
Uh sorry, I did not recognise it as a notion of spirituality, my bad.
Yeah, that bothers me too (the first part, not the second). But physics gives me a headache.
Though I have heard some things here which make me very very curious.
I don;t think I have a ghost-like spirit. Perhaps when the bificated brain is not in complete sync there's a feeling of someone else, a ghost, a god, a xenu, being there. Sometimes people hear voices as in schizophrenia - this could lead someone to think they have a spirit-ghost. Also, dreams could have led someone to such a concept. Or simply trying to rationalize the loss of a loved one.
Enmos
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I know spirituality exists and that it might do good for some people.
I do believe that some things in spirituality are actually based on reality but they are unrealistically explained. Similar to 'God did it' explanations.
My concept of it.. hmm.
Spirituality: The belief in the supernatural itself and the belief that the supernatural can interact with the natural.
Both beliefs are logical fallacies btw.
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Enmos
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In my opinion nothing will be left.
SAM said:
Pattern is what is left when you set aside substrate.
With you so far - now what ? Are you asking whether atheists believe in the existence of patterns without substrate, or are you interested in some of these patterns and wonder if atheists "believe in" them, or what ?
I'm wondering what are their ideas beyond reductionism
What is the idea of God besides reductionist?
In what way is the idea of God reductionism?
What if your spirit were something that arises and emerges from that chemical biological system?
Would that cheapen the idea of spirituality?
How is it not? Where did the universe come from? God. How does consciousness arise? God. How should we act? God tells us. It's very simplistic.