Preacher X:
You are making yourself look like an idiot here. However, I will forgive you this time because you are very young. Hopefully, you will learn something from this experience. I will now teach you some basic geography and physics. Read carefully.
the north pole is classiefied as land.
No. The north pole is in the Arctic Ocean, which is not land.
the glaciers it is on is part of the country.
There are no glaciers at the North Pole.
im sure you;re gonna reply back saying how it isn't. well just look in any book concerning the North and South pole or just ask yourself, if its not land then why is it on the map and why is Antarictica a continent.
Because underneath the ice on Antarctica, there is land. Underneath the ice at the North pole, there is only water. All the ice at the North pole floats on the ocean. The same is not true of the ice on the Antarctic continent.
is an ice cube anything like trillions and trillions of meters of ice.
In terms of its buoyant properties when it floats, there is no important difference at all between a single ice cube and trillions of tonnes of ice.
use your head james;
1) the trillions of meters of land in the north pole are ICE!
Yes.
2) If these melt what would happen?
The ice would turn to water, but the sea level would not rise, as I explained.
3) if trillions of meters of ice melts, you get loads of EXTRA water!
When the ice is floating, it already displaces a certain amount of sea water. When it melts, the water created by the melting exactly equals the amount of water displaced before the ice melted, resulting in no rise in sea level. This is a basic application of Archimedes' principle.
Me: "Get a glass and fill it to the brim with water. Now, put in an ice cube. When you do that, some water will initially overflow. Now, sit and watch your glass of water as the ice cube melts. Let me know if you see any more overflow as the ice melts. I say that the ice melting won't cause the water level to rise and overflow. The same is true for the North Pole sea ice."
You: that experiment does not work becasue in the galss the water is already there and THEN you are adding the ice cube. the ice cube SINKS aswell, remember. the ice cube, then overflows the glass becasue it is ADDED to the water which is ALREADY full, so it moves the full water away.
Did you read where I said that when you put the cube into water, INITIALLY some water will overflow?
in real life this isn't the case. the water is there and the Ice is already there.
Yes, just like at the start of my experiment, after you've put the ice in the water.
and the ICE IS FLOATING so the bits above water level are not contributing to the water level!!!!
Wrong. Of course the bits above the water level affect the water level. The bits above the water are resting on the bits below the water, pushing them down further into the water. That pushes more water surrounding the ice aside, which causes the water level to rise. That's why when you first put the cube into water the water overflows.
if that ice turns to waterm what do you think will happen?
The ice which melts creates a volume of water exactly equal to the volume already displaced by the ice, so the water level doesn't change - like I said before.
here is a better experiment.;
1) buy a massive block of ice
2) HALF fill a bathtub with water and (dont fully fill the bath becasue when you put the ice cube in the water levek will rise and if it is already full then water will over flow.
Yes.
3) slighly lift the ice above the water level (leave 1/2 of ice under water), becasue in real life the ice will be ABOVE sea level
If you put an ice block in a half-full bathtub some of the ice will sit above the water level - just like an iceberg in the ocean. Or like the ice at the North Pole. You don't need to lift it.
4) measure the WATER LEVEL
Ok.
5) now take the ice out, put it in a bucket, melt it and pour the water in.
6) NOW measure the water level.
Fine. You will find that the water level is the same as it was with the ice cube sitting in the water.
you first experiment didnt work becasue
1) the water level was already full, then you added the ice
2) the ice sank and in real life it has to be kept above water
The ice at the North pole is not all above water. What do you think supports it?
Yes, very young, but old enough that you should be willing to learn from people who know more than you.
submarines cross underneath LAND as well.
Let me add an extra question to the list just for you:
3. Can you find me ONE source which says that submarines can travel underneath LAND?
I say you are flat-out wrong here, too. Submarines travel in water, not through the Earth. The word "sub.marine" literally means "under.water".
and anyway i didn't say the North Pole isn't Ice. it is Ice. but it is called "land" and is a country/continent.
It is not a continent. Continents consist of land.
and if it is not land then why is it
1) on WORLD maps of LANDS
It isn't really. The shape of the ice floes at the North pole are variable. The sea ice at the pole has no fixed shape. It is roughly indicated on maps, but that is partly artistic licence.
It isn't a continent.
3) why do scientist live on it?
To study it.
normal land lets say the UK is just rock and is solid enough to live on so is Antarctica it is land but is ice not rock.
Antarctic has land underneath the ice. There is no land underneath the North polar ice.
Now, how about an apology, Preacher X? Are you mature enough to admit you were wrong, or not?