Perhaps he has, but with a form of derision which I find offensive.
Well lets focus on the good part which after all is, for Jan, presumably a huge step to recognise atheists exist...lets face it at the start of this thread he was inclined to think there were no atheists which he really wanted to be the case.
No doubt he would be happier if although an atheist that you did not reject God☺
And I would like to think that Jan is not trying to be offensive as in his world God is real and certainly exists and I expect he feels the need to help others find God so they can feel warm and fuzzy as that self delussion delivers.
Certainly for an atheist dealing with a believer becomes frustrating but really given we are dealing with a non event we need not get offended.
I really believe we should feel pity for folk who have been brainwashed to such a degree that they turn to the bronze age for direction.
They just do not understand the way science reveals the biblical accounts to be no more than made up stuff by folk with no understanding of the world. Even though into animal husbandry they had not idea..check the account of breeding animals in the bible.. if you know your bible you will know to what I refer.
Back then crazy folk were held up to be possessed by the divine spirit rather than mentally ill.
These days we understand mental illness and realise such folk are not the source of wisdom or relevation but back then it met you were intouch with God.
It is unfortunate believers will not consider the context of the various relevations.
I was watching David Attenborough and he mentioned how in the recent past a chap who proposed butterflies came from catapillars was arrested for heresy because it was believed that God created them seperate creatures.
They did not even understand bird migration thinking birds hide and slept thru winter...
They thought some geese came from barnacles.
And that was only a while back so imagine how it went in the bronze age.
If one spent the time you could find lots of stuff along similar lines to demonstrate the bone headed ignorance suffered by religious folk and that is easy to understand because everything they made up, including the God concept, was born from ignorance and the ramblings of folk who often were simply mentally ill.
There is presumably 20% of the USA who believe the Earth is not a globe like object orbiting the Sun because the bible presents the Earth as flat.
It is rather worrying.
Their (believers) belief in the flood story is extraordinary ... a 800 year old man and his 100 year old sons built a boat to house all animals, including young dinasours some 4500 years ago and from those animals and 8 people the world was repopulated with both humans and animals from there...
And these folk reject evolution????
It is tragic.
They say over and over that the bible is the word of God and ignore the fact it was written by humans from the bronze age who simply did not have a clue.
Their ( believers) brains dont work anymore and they profess ignorance and blind acceptance is a virtue.
They donot see and cant see that in itself is a big big problem.
It is simply just so sad that they (believers) were damaged beyong repair when children.
I saw one poor kid...he did not believe evolution..why his parents told him God created it all...that is just so very wrong.
I dont think such unfortunate folk mean to be offensive they just have been brainwashed to such a degree that they cant think rationally.
They are pumped with the idea to have faith which slams the door on reason and enquirey.
So many (believers) think science is some kind of trickery and have no idea what a scientific theory is or how if flawed will be happily torn to pieces by other scientists.
"Its only a theory" they rattle as if they have delivered the killer blow...just that shows their unfortunate ignorance.
I just hope we can help Jan.
It is so sad that someone who seems intelligent well read and decent has been so terribly harmed such that he is seemingly incapable of working out that he has been conned.
He should not be treated as a source of fun he needs respect pity and help.
Alex
