I just knew it. So I was right.
I like the way you slipped it in but I got your message.
One still needs to develop a relationship with God.
Why?
How can you develop a relationship with a fictional character...remember God is a mere unsupported claim at this point so if you have no evidence how do you know firstly if your entity "is" as you say...and secondly with no evidence of its expectations if it does indeed exist how do you know how it works or expects you to relate to it...as far as I can tell its all guesswork based upon wishful thinking and why should any rational person conclude otherwise.
All I get notwithstanding your many posts is that your basis for belief is what I suppose we would call instinct...you just know?
I could understand belief could be instinct given humans seem to have always been superstitious and that is why it is so exciting to be one of the new humans free from the instinct that has perhaps been with us for one hundred thousand years ...perhaps back to when apes and us were the same...the common ancestor.
Maybe it was superstition that gave us structure and made us somewhat more fit to survieve...that sounds good...hey making stuff up is fun.
Which is why I don't really talk about religion.
So God is separate from religion?
Look I am trying to follow but you have lost me here.
You
Language Jan...please dont lower yourself to profanity you really are better than that ...moreover I can see that I have upset you by drawing attention to the changes in humans happening right now.
Just think we may be offerred up in history classes in the distant future...you of course representing the superstitious humans who somehow survived without science and me..lesser equiped but holding that one vital ability that sees me one of the first new unsuperstitious humans that with this quality see the superstitious humans finally fade away.
I'm more interested in spiritual growth, not the fleeting illusion of temporary forms.
We all need an interest to take our minds away from reality so I understand.
I know you do. But it's bullshit Alex.
I wish you could see that.
I am sure you do Jan.
Just as you think I miss the truth I think the same for you...and I think you care but I base that on the way I approach things..
I care that folk are conned by following superstition ...I really care...I see the bad things about religion and wish for a better human free of superstition...I dont know if your motivation is personal in that you just want an afterlife for yourself and hang the rest of humanity...I want more for all humans, I want equality of opportunity good education for all, good nutrition, good shelter for all...I believe getting rid of superstition is key and may stop groups thinking they are better than other groups...and I do wish for a God who would help.
Heck if I was God you would have no animal cruelty, women would be treated as equals in fact placed on higher status than men..
They are the species after all...males are mere seed carriers.
But there is no God or lets say there is as if so he does nothing...why let children die at the hands of sexual criminals...if I were God I would be on the job.
And this nonsense about miracles...save one person but let thousands die...put it in a pile and it does not make sense.
We dont need superstition Jan we need truth.
You're currently not going to accept God, so talk of evidence, and proof, is pointless.
My view is if God was more than a fairy tale he would first make it easy to know he was there and secondly not leave it to bronze age folk etc etc etc.
Can anyone one actualy believe this God introduced himself to only a very small group of people in the world ...that is an extrodinary claim dont you think?
If there was a God it could be better.
A great deal better...the wars, the suffering..oh free will??? Well that did not work so turn them into robots who are nice to each other...a creator of the universe should be able to do better...and he would if he were real...that makes total sense.....but none of it adds up, none of it is rationalal but most important none of it is evidenced or supported in any way...I know hide the evidence so atheist dont pick holes in it...are you kidding...you must be an atheist trying to draw attention to the stupidity of the whole deal.
Deep down I know you are you just reject atheism to feel good.
You cant expect me to take it seriously given the deaths and suffering of inoccents...
Just as you have concern for me I have concern for you...you seem decent and very intelligent and yet this god nonsense seems to have you crippled...please dont fear death or hell and live in the present ...you can be good without it being laid out by folk from the bronze age...
Religion and therefore belief in a god is responsible for so many bad things.
Why do you think women are treated as inferior to men..its that basis crap that gets fed to kids as religion...the deaths the wars...you must know.
With all this evidence look to your conscience and ask ..is it not time that I think for myself and throw off the chains of superstition...it is only then that you can develop spiritually...its foundation, the foundation upon which to build enlightenment is truth..truth Jan which can be found by simply aski g simple questions about the credibility of your God story....may wisdom wash over you and cleanse you of all superstition....think about what I have said as you go to sleep and when you awake I just know you will have found enlightenment.
Alex