DaveC426913
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OK, yes. Fair enough.Computer is a non living device, still its memory is tsken into consideration. How when it has no no neural system?
Water, on the other hand, does not.
OK, yes. Fair enough.Computer is a non living device, still its memory is tsken into consideration. How when it has no no neural system?
This is word salad woo. There is no science here.When our body get sense of defficiency due to some rxposure of abnormally low quantity, obiously it will try to increase its physiological activities to normalize this defficiency. When you put few drop of water on face of a sleeping person, he awakes and start doing his needed physiological activities. It suggests that low dose also have stimulation effect.
BFT!! It will though make someone happy.This is word salad woo. There is no science here.
Reporting this thread for being in the wrong forum; it belongs in Pseudoscience.
No. Water does not retain a "molecular memory." That is woo.Thanks. I was only interested to justify molecular or information or memory presence of active substsnces in higher potencies in this topic which is justified.
I did not say it had no relevance. I said you could not see a one-atom pixel - just as one molecule of a drug in a liter of water will not affect you.You can not say that atom has no relevance with pixel i.e. somewhat 1 or zero has no importance in one million.
Woo.When our body get sense of defficiency due to some rxposure of abnormally low quantity, obiously it will try to increase its physiological activities to normalize this defficiency.
Of course. Now imagine you put a molecule of water on his face. He would react - not at all. Homeopathy is a similar concentration.When you put few drop of water on face of a sleeping person, he awakes and start doing his needed physiological activities. It suggests that low dose also have stimulation effect.
Water as a structural or chemical change may not have such memory but it can have due to presence of other substsnces( active and glass sheded molecules). Not so?OK, yes. Fair enough.
Water, on the other hand, does not.
Who imagined an apple falling woo will make gravitational theory. Probably who eould had thought that a slap in reaction to slap will make newton's 3rd law of motion. As such many current woo can become science on better or absolute and complete understsnding of science.This is word salad woo. There is no science here.
Reporting this thread for being in the wrong forum; it belongs in Pseudoscience.
Why can't there be some structural change in water due to consistent oresence of molecules of other substances (active n glass ) ? Eventhough no structural or chemical change happen, water can still act as a carrier or vehicle of separated molecules. Just dissolve some salt in watet and than dry it. Will you not note some difference in properties of solution and of dried salt?No. Water does not retain a "molecular memory." That is woo.
I did not say it had no relevance. I said you could not see a one-atom pixel - just as one molecule of a drug in a liter of water will not affect you.
Woo.
Of course. Now imagine you put a molecule of water on his face. He would react - not at all. Homeopathy is a similar concentration.
Because water has no memory.Why can't there be some structural change in water due to consistent oresence of molecules of other substances
Sure. The salt will dissolve in water. You can then distill the water to remove it. You then have salt and water again. The water does not "remember" the salt.Eventhough no structural or chemical change happen, water can still act as a carrier or vehicle of separated molecules. Just dissolve some salt in watet and than dry it. Will you not note some difference in properties of solution and of dried salt?
That is biology, not chemistry. Water is not alive.Moreover quantity along with equality also matter for getting variations in effects. Seed or a small cutting of a tree can matter more for the growth of a big tree than planting big tree itself.
If you think an apple falling is "woo" then you are insane.Who imagined an apple falling woo will make gravitational theory.
Not so.Water as a structural or chemical change may not have such memory but it can have due to presence of other substsnces( active and glass sheded molecules). Not so?
Water here will not effect but act like a vehicle or carrier for dissolved molecule to mantain a certain concentration and separation. I am not sure about structural or momentum changes in water molecule on coming into consitsnt close contact with other substsnces.Because water has no memory.
Sure. The salt will dissolve in water. You can then distill the water to remove it. You then have salt and water again. The water does not "remember" the salt.
That is biology, not chemistry. Water is not alive.
If you think an apple falling is "woo" then you are insane.
If your room do not have memory of dust, why you clean and paint it again and again?Not so.
My living room has dust bunnies. That does not mean my living room has a "memory" of dust.
Again:
You want to apply science, but then you use woo phrases like 'memory'.
Which way do you want to go? Science or woo? You must pick one.
Yes. You can dissolve things in water.Water here will not effect but act like a vehicle or carrier for dissolved molecule to mantain a certain concentration and separation.
Apparently.I am not sure about structural or momentum changes in water molecule on coming into consitsnt close contact with other substsnces.
Of course. A simple pair of dice can "remember" what side they land on.Non biological sibstsnces can also have memory eg computer memory.
Absolutely. I am only saying that homeopathy is woo.No I am just saying anytging declared as woo today can become science tommorow by new understsnding because science is still not absolute and complete.
You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?Probably who eould had thought that a slap in reaction to slap will make newton's 3rd law of motion.
I know it in sense of, for every action there is equal and opposite reaction. So whethet slap in return of slap do not justify it?You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?
Whatever, memory of water is there or not but molecular presence is justified, digging water memory issue has no sense. Water memory digging was only important when molechular presence was not justified. Okay?Yes. You can dissolve things in water.
Apparently.
Of course. A simple pair of dice can "remember" what side they land on.
Absolutely. I am only saying that homeopathy is woo.
Homeopathy is woo. We have explained to you why. It has been thoroughly tested and debunked. There is no water memory.Whatever, memory of water is there or not but molecular presence is justified, digging water memory issue has no sense. Water memory digging was only important when molechular presence was not justified. Okay?
If we say that memory is limited to biological subjects, whole global modern or even evolutionary system will fail.
When molecular presence is justified, homeooathy now can not be tsken as woo. Simply it need to be regularized in science, which their community may not prefer.
Newton's 3rd law (or any other of his) has nothing whatsoever to do with a returned slap.I know it in sense of, for every action there is equal and opposite reaction. So whethet slap in return of slap do not justify it?
The first issue to take it as woo was its remedies were taken as plain water. But it is jistified as false in this topic Further looking at my personal n practical observation of syrup, I also perceive that there would had been sufficient quantity of molecules. Othereise how could I sense those? Since this being quite aromatic, I could easily recognize it but I may not apparently recognize other non aromatic ones inspite of their presence. Probably a senstive sniffer dog can recognize. Otherwise anyone can try this experiment with that syrup or take a strong perfume bottle and use it by repeated filling and empitying of water. Go beyond Avogodro number. Just see if still smell is there or not. It is quite easyHomeopathy is woo. We have explained to you why. It has been thoroughly tested and debunked. There is no water memory.
I tend to base on sense instead of language or formal presentation. Slaping in reaction to slap justify example of newtons 3rd law of motion.Newton's 3rd law (or any other of his) has nothing whatsoever to do with a returned slap.
This also has been explained to you. If you can still smell it, you have not washed all the molecules away. There is no need to invoke woo.The first issue to take it as woo was its remedies were taken as plain water. But it is jistified as false in this topic Further looking at my personal n practical observation of syrup, I also perceive that there would had been sufficient quantity of molecules. Othereise how could I sense those? Since this being quite aromatic, I could easily recognize it but I may not apparently recognize other non aromatic ones inspite of their presence. Probably a senstive sniffer dog can recognize. Otherwise anyone can try this experiment with that syrup or take a strong perfume bottle and use it by repeated filling and empitying of water. Go beyond Avogodro number. Just see if still smell is there or not. It is quite easy