Pure, Single, Positive Bases of Existence are Absurd

SciWriter said:
I know my own opinion. I was asking yours. But you deflect again.
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Glad to hear that you have an opinion on the subject - kind of makes your critiques on the subject a little bit more credible. Perhaps now you can fathom the significance of "somehow trying to ply evolution in some manner to discredit god is bollocks " as opposed to pretending you don't know what the notion of god is about.
 
lightgigantic said:
Glad to hear that you have an opinion on the subject - kind of makes your critiques on the subject a little bit more credible. Perhaps now you can fathom the significance of "somehow trying to ply evolution in some manner to discredit god is bollocks " as opposed to pretending you don't know what the notion of god is about.
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Certainly the idea of God can be discredited by evolution. I'll go into it in the ID thread. What is your idea of 'God' again?
 
BECOMING We humans mirror and recapitulate much of evolution while growing in our mother’s womb, racing through many stages in which life evolved. During this nine months, and even beyond that, we move from mindlessness to shadowy awareness to consciousness of the world around us onto consciousness of the self and then even to becoming conscious of consciousness itself.

For the first two and one-half years of life, the inexplicable holistic world is experienced less and less holistically as the child discovers the bounds of discrete objects. The holistic right brain remains, of course, for us to take in the overall view, while the logical left brain is there to recognize the detailed relationships.

As such, so goes the universe, since we are formed in its image. So, then, this gives us a clue to the nature of the universe. Seeing that the brain is divided into two hemispheres, each with their own characteristic mode of thought, that can communicate with each other—means that we are looking very deeply into the way that reality itself is constructed.

These two complimentary aspects to the cosmos are thus absolutely essential, one being of the whole: the apparently indivisible, continuous fluid entity, although discrete at unnoticeable levels, the other being the interrelationships of the parts. Each interpretation does not appear at exactly the same time, but the yin ever gives way to yang and ever then back to yin, and so on, the rounded life of the mind thus continuing to fully roll as the cycle of this symmetry turns and returns. If not, one either gets totally lost in the details or prematurely halts at the whole.

The holistic right brain mode is unfocused, as we see in some people who are unconcerned with details, it always building the scene in parallel to form a single entity; whereas, the focused left side of brain isolates a target of interest and tracks it and its derivatives sequentially and serially.

Yet, the two sides of the overall brain are connected to each other and so the speed of the juggling act can meld them together into a complete balance, like that portrayed by the revolving Yin-Yang symbol, each ever receding and giving rise to the other.

Such does the universe go both ways, too, its separate parts implicated with everything else in the whole. During conscious observation, the ‘hereness’ and ‘nowness’ of reality crystalizes and remains, we establishing and actually bettering what that reality is to a large extent by painting a more useful face upon it.

We define and refine the nature of reality that leads to the mind’s outlook. Counterintuitive? Cyclical? Yes, but it is the universe in dialog with itself; the wave functions, and yet the function waves.

The universe supplies the means of its own creation, its possibilities supplying the avenues and the probability and workability that carve out the paths leading to fitness and success.

So, here we are, then and now, the rains of change falling everywhere, the streams being carved out, the water rising back up to the sky, the rain then falling everywhere, the streams recarving and meandering toward more meaning, and so on.
 
SciWriter said:
BECOMING We humans mirror and recapitulate much of evolution while growing in our mother’s womb, racing through many stages in which life evolved. During this nine months, and even beyond that, we move from mindlessness to shadowy awareness to consciousness of the world around us onto consciousness of the self and then even to becoming conscious of consciousness itself.

For the first two and one-half years of life, the inexplicable holistic world is experienced less and less holistically as the child discovers the bounds of discrete objects. The holistic right brain remains, of course, for us to take in the overall view, while the logical left brain is there to recognize the detailed relationships.

As such, so goes the universe, since we are formed in its image. So, then, this gives us a clue to the nature of the universe. Seeing that the brain is divided into two hemispheres, each with their own characteristic mode of thought, that can communicate with each other—means that we are looking very deeply into the way that reality itself is constructed.

These two complimentary aspects to the cosmos are thus absolutely essential, one being of the whole: the apparently indivisible, continuous fluid entity, although discrete at unnoticeable levels, the other being the interrelationships of the parts. Each interpretation does not appear at exactly the same time, but the yin ever gives way to yang and ever then back to yin, and so on, the rounded life of the mind thus continuing to fully roll as the cycle of this symmetry turns and returns. If not, one either gets totally lost in the details or prematurely halts at the whole.

The holistic right brain mode is unfocused, as we see in some people who are unconcerned with details, it always building the scene in parallel to form a single entity; whereas, the focused left side of brain isolates a target of interest and tracks it and its derivatives sequentially and serially.

Yet, the two sides of the overall brain are connected to each other and so the speed of the juggling act can meld them together into a complete balance, like that portrayed by the revolving Yin-Yang symbol, each ever receding and giving rise to the other.

Such does the universe go both ways, too, its separate parts implicated with everything else in the whole. During conscious observation, the ‘hereness’ and ‘nowness’ of reality crystalizes and remains, we establishing and actually bettering what that reality is to a large extent by painting a more useful face upon it.

We define and refine the nature of reality that leads to the mind’s outlook. Counterintuitive? Cyclical? Yes, but it is the universe in dialog with itself; the wave functions, and yet the function waves.

The universe supplies the means of its own creation, its possibilities supplying the avenues and the probability and workability that carve out the paths leading to fitness and success.

So, here we are, then and now, the rains of change falling everywhere, the streams being carved out, the water rising back up to the sky, the rain then falling everywhere, the streams recarving and meandering toward more meaning, and so on.
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That sermon sits nicely with this.

jan.
 
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