it begins with the faith that god exists which is before associating with theists which in turn is before applying whatever one hears from them .... seems like a lousy far fetched 100%
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Pure, Single, Positive Bases of Existence are Absurd
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it begins with the faith that god exists
which is before associating with theists which in turn is before applying whatever one hears from them ....
This is an old formula - that I do not think it works.
It's a rationalistic formula based on hindsight bias; an abstract, theoretical attempt to explain how people come to believe in God.
It is not necessarily a viable formula, though.
(In fact, you yourself have likely not acted according to that formula in your own coming to belief in God!)
It is logically impossible to start off with the faith that God exists - as long as one is not sure what God is.
One can only have an idea of what God is, if one subscribes to a particular theistic doctrine.
But one can only subscribe to a particular theistic doctrine by being a member of a theistic community.
And one can only be a member of a theistic community if one is born into it, or by forced conversion, or by a psychopathological process, or by scheming, or by divine inspiration.
seems like a far fetched 100%
Not at all.
It begins when one does believe in god.This is an old formula - that I do not think it works.
It's a rationalistic formula based on hindsight bias; an abstract, theoretical attempt to explain how people come to believe in God.
ditto aboveIt is not necessarily a viable formula, though.
(In fact, you yourself have likely not acted according to that formula in your own coming to belief in God!)
Feel free to indicate those theistic doctrines that don't establish god as the provider and creator of everything, etc.It is logically impossible to start off with the faith that God exists - as long as one is not sure what God is.
One can only have an idea of what God is, if one subscribes to a particular theistic doctrine.
If dictionaries can manage to define the word god in denominational neutral terms I guess its not to hard for people at large.But one can only subscribe to a particular theistic doctrine by being a member of a theistic community.
And one can only be a member of a theistic community if one is born into it, or by forced conversion, or by a psychopathological process, or by scheming, or by divine inspiration.
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think again ...Not at all.
It begins when one does believe in god.
But belief in God is not something one would have control over.
One cannot initiate one's belief in God.
Yet theists demand it from people.
Feel free to indicate those theistic doctrines that don't establish god as the provider and creator of everything, etc.
If dictionaries can manage to define the word god in denominational neutral terms I guess its not to hard for people at large.
Dictionary-like definitions surrounding the topic "God" are too general, too abstract to serve as a basis for joining a particular religion or developing a particular stance on God.
For some people, at least.
They are fine enough as a platform to render sentences like "I believe in god" comprehensible in a non-denominational sense.BDictionary-like definitions surrounding the topic "God" are too general, too abstract to serve as a basis for joining a particular religion or developing a particular stance on God.
For some people, at least.
They are fine enough as a platform to render sentences like "I believe in god" comprehensible in a non-denominational sense.
Sometimes, to some people.
Definitely not for everyone, not in all situations.
As long as the situation is general it works fine. Its even quite common for people to mark that they believe in god but don't belong/are affiliated to any religion.Sometimes, to some people.
Definitely not for everyone, not in all situations.
As long as the situation is general it works fine. Its even quite common for people to mark that they believe in god but don't belong/are affiliated to any religion.
It doesn't work. There is nothing there for it to work. It's just abstract and general, with no application and no actual connection to the person's life.