Public displays of affection

enmos is right mad, to film or photograph anyone in public or private without concent is illegal. its ok to take a photo of a whole street where there maybe people for art but to specifically film a specific person is against the law

You always bring up "the law". It does not exist.
 
If I remember correctly its illegal to film anyone in particular in public without their consent if you are going to use the material publicly.

I think that only applies if you are making money off it. Youtube has all kinds of videos of strangers filming eachother. But they couldn't legally put the clips together and sell them on a DVD.

If you couldn't film strangers, the news would be just talking and no film clips. :shrug:
 
Not this again. Can't you people come up with something better ? :rolleyes:

Something better? Its a valid point. You keep on with the same 'animals are better than people' spiel, so we say "quit eating them if you care so much"
 
enmos is right mad, to film or photograph anyone in public or private without concent is illegal. its ok to take a photo of a whole street where there maybe people for art but to specifically film a specific person is against the law

and you know this how? :bugeye: Got any proof? A link to the law that says that?
MadAnt is right.
 
orleander do you realise you are a pain in the ass?

do you also realise that alot of our laws are in the form of common law which is almost impossable to find?

anway this is a disscussion paper on the issue prepared for the atorny generals

if you wish to read it go ahead

Summary
AMTA does not believe that new legislation is required to address concerns relating to the inappropriate taking and publication of photographs. Strong laws already exist to protect the community from individuals who choose to inappropriately take or publish photographs, with many of these laws having only come into effect recently. The effectiveness of these laws should be tested before any new legislation is considered.


Any measures that are considered must be technology-neutral: they must not target one technology over another. Requirements to regulate mobile handsets or digital imaging, for example, would not only be inappropriate, but would also be impossible to implement and police and would therefore be ineffectual.


These issues are examined in more detail in this submission, which responds to each of the discussion paper’s questions in turn.

http://www.amta.org.au/amta/site/am...he Standing Committee of Attorney, Oct 05.doc
 
....do you also realise that alot of our laws are in the form of common law which is almost impossable to find?...

:rolleyes: of course they are.

I wonder why the paparazzi runs around taking pics of people on public property. I wonder why they aren't in jail. hmmmm, maybe because IT'S NOT ILLEGAL!
 
orelander let me show you something

this is the crimes act for victoria
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/ca195882/

now not all criminal law is even covered in that, most is but some is contained in common law or other pieces of legislation. this is just for one state and doesnt even cover federal criminal legislation either only that which is a crime which state legislation covers.

now im no lawyer, but there are at least 9 of these, one for each of the 6 states, 2 territories and one for the commonwealth
 
I have no idea what your point is. To prove there is a law against photographing people in public, you show a list of illegal acts, even though photographing people in public isn't on the list???

You're right. You are no lawyer....well, with all the confusing off topic double speak, I think you'd make a good one. Or a good politician. ;)
 
firstly did you actually read the quote i provided or are you so brain dead you cant even read?

Anyway orleander ask bells if you want the exact act and subsection, she is the lawyer not me
 
What the hell Asguard?

No, it is not illegal to photograph a member of the public without their consent. There are restrictions on photographing children in public places however, but in most instances, said restrictions are put in place by the local councils or private organisations that run a particular event or place.

There is a clause in this however and your own link above touched on this.

These include the Commonwealth Criminal Code, as recently amended (and in force from 1 March 2005) to include an offence of intentionally using a carriage service (including a mobile phone, or the internet) in a way which would be regarded by reasonable persons as being, in all circumstances menacing, harassing or offensive.

Ergo, it is not illegal to photograph people in public, so long as it is not deemed to be menacing, harrassment (eg stalking) or offensive (eg. taking photos of children getting changed at the beach or the upskirt type of photos, as well as taking photos of topless sunbathers at the beach).

If you want some more comprehensive reading on the matter, you can read the following link.

Australian Privacy Regime

And the following blog gives a good description on the issue of privacy and public photography:

http://blogs.smh.com.au/photographers/archives/2007/02/photography_is_not_a_crime.html
 
bells we were talking about taking pitures of people who were having sex, wouldnt that come under the provisions of "offensive"?
 
bells we were talking about taking pitures of people who were having sex, wouldnt that come under the provisions of "offensive"?

It could be. But then again, the people having sex in public could and would be deemed offensive. For example, someone could capture your photo as you're bonking your other half in a public park and then take said photo to the police to have you identified and charged with public indecency. And no, that individual taking that photo would not be breaking the law.

There are a lot of gray areas when it comes to this subject. So you can't make blanket statements about it being illegal.
 
at the end of the day i bow to your knowlage as you know what your talking about. however i did find this:

During 2004, Samsung ran a television advertisement depicting a young man sitting in a café. He was taking photos of a young girl walking across the promenade with his mobile phone with an in-built camera. The young girl was not aware she was having her photo taken. However, she soon realised and walked over to the man sitting in the café, took the mobile camera phone and began to take pictures of herself rolling over a car.

Later in the year, LG ran a television advertisement where a girl on a beach phones her friend in a shop to show her a live video feed of a muscular man applying sun tan lotion. It is obvious the man is unaware that he is being videoed. The girl in the shop receiving the images passes the phone to a male companion to view. The catch phrase for the ad was “LG, official sponsors of eye candy”.

In both cases, these TV ads depict voyeurism as a legitimate activity. In the Samsung ad, it goes further to suggest that people like having their photos taken with or without their knowledge or consent.

However, despite mobile phones with an in-built camera being advertised in this way, Peter Mackenzie of Coogee was fined $500 when he pleaded guilty in Waverly Local Court for behaving offensively in a public place on November 6, 2004. He was arrested for taking photos with his mobile camera phone of topless women sunbathing on Coogee beach. Peter Mackenzie has not been the last to be convicted in this way.

Although what Mr Mackenzie had done was entirely inappropriate, it is consistent with current advertising showing that it is perfectly acceptable to photograph people without their consent or knowledge. Governments at all levels have been busily enacting legislation to make it illegal to photograph someone without their knowledge or consent, but at the same time have been turning a blind eye to manufacturers who advertise the use of these devices in contradiction to the legislation. It is the same blind eye that allows television shows to run movies about adult-children sexual relationships in contradiction to existing legislation.

Again, there is confusion in the community when advertisers are telling us that it is perfectly acceptable to use this device in this manner, but then watch as people are arrested and led away. It is time for this government to spell out precisely what is and what is not acceptable at all levels.

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=3488

now on one hand this artical suggests your right that unauthorised photography legislation is still being written. At the same time however it suggests that the sort of photography we are talking about is already against the law

Thats not to mention the fact that from my lay reading of the stawking legislation in victoria it could be used quite easerly to procute someone who took photos of someone without there concent even if it only happened on a single occasion

however as i said, your the expert
 
firstly did you actually read the quote i provided or are you so brain dead you cant even read?....

LOL, this from a boy who lacks basic spelling skills. Yes, yes, I know. Its not your fault. :rolleyes:

So, if you know people are taking pics of you having sex in the park, will you still be doing it? Is that what it would take to stop you? Sounds like an idea for parents to consider.
 
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my oldest 2 already know, my youngest is just to young to know, and i will keep it that way for a while.

when my oldest kids found out we said that its what some adults do and we enjoy it,
 
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