If I wasn't I wouldn't have stayed with it.
The issue is that I am trying to understand what it is that makes you sure that this isn't just in your mind.
The more I understand about what is driving this, the more I believe it is something that you are generating. But, as I have indicated before. It doesn't explain things moving around the table etc.
So there are things which I think are happening which are purely coincendental and are things that you are looking to fit in the puzzle and there are things that are beyond that which fit in the puzzle that are being ignored.
But if you suggesting that this persons music truly conforms precisely to your experience than contact them and ask them.
Here are some comments by other people listening to that song on youtube.
"I believe it's talking about how every time he tries to do something important he is stopped, whether byÿ his own insecurities or by other people, but it never stops him from telling himself he can do it again. "
"i think they are diggin cause they hearÿ the music? im not sure just an idea "
"i think the music is coming from under thatÿ puddle, so they are digging in essence, for the band "
"wtf i dont get it either the beginin maybe he heardÿ them ?idk? in the endin idk wtf he was diggin maybe one day he wanted to start diggin and the us army came in and told him no go away. really? whats the point of the video ? lol but i thought the song was about liek runin away and startin a new life but i guess they ment start a new life ...DIG! ??? confused "
"i think they're digging and theyÿ find a spaceship w/alien markings at 2:33 which is really 30STM logo?or something and the military comes to keep them shut cuz the military doesnt want ppl knowing about it and stuff and i agree jared looks better w/brown hair and red tips "
Nobody knows what the hell is going on because they are all purposely vague so guess what ?
It can mean something to everyone !
I don't think they would talk to me, or about me with just anybody, in this regard.
I think physical separation is a contingency. I've said that before.
Those people haven't lived through what I've lived through j.
And what pieces that don't fit? There are so many pieces that do fit, that I would have to have a fucking lobotomy not to know somethings up.
I realize they may not have had any experience like you have revealed. But they are doing the same thing with the songs. Applying meaning to that which they themselves see in the world.
What pieces don't fit is what I am asking.
You know the ones that fit, what about all of the things that contradict this connection. For example, this video.
Was there anything in there that did not fit ?
nope.
Well the only way to find out is to make contact.
Why wouldn't they confirm it ?
Why do you think physical separation is required ?
If they told you no, the songs are not about you, what would you do with that information ?
Ok, how about the beginning of this video. I just watched again. JEBUS.
So I noticed at the very beginning. The boy, puts his ear down to the ground and they flash to the band who is below.
They are obviously digging to get to the band.
So what does that mean ?
well, the premise of the song is that the singer disappears. so, people hear the music and start "digging" to see if they can find out where he went. he says his message (in his music) will show them the way. as they're digging, they uncover a woman, and maybe a craft, and "the man" apparently doesn't like what they've found, so...
“ Originally Posted by jpappl
Well the only way to find out is to make contact. ”
good luck.
“ Why do you think physical separation is required ? ”
to prove that what happened to me actually did, and that it was entirely spiritual in nature, not corroborated by any type of physical contact or correspondence.
“ If they told you no, the songs are not about you, what would you do with that information ? ”
stick it in my file with the rest of it.
Right.
So they uncover a woman, did they uncover her ? or was she digging and there all along ? It's not clear.
Maybe a craft, we assume it is a craft with the weird symbols but it might be something else since we don't see a craft just the symbols.
the way they were hauling her out, i assumed they uncovered her.
oh, that's why i didn't see a craft. the symbols are probably the same ones the band uses for artwork, cd covers, tee's etc.Yes, all too vague to be sure. It's not a documentary that's for sure.
let's talk about a man saying "start again with a brand new name and eyes that see into infinity"...weren't we just taking about scripture that says the name of god will be sealed onto the 144,000?
I don't see how those two things relate at all. Please clarify for me.
“ “ If they told you no, the songs are not about you, what would you do with that information ? ”
stick it in my file with the rest of it. ”
Let me ask it another way.
If somehow we could connect with them and they told us and you, no, the song has nothing to do with what Lori is saying.
Would you accept their answer ?
Well that would be for you to do.
So what your saying is that if you did have contact with them before then everyone could just say, you planned it together.
That I understand but now that it has happened what would stop you from confirming it.
Let me ask it another way.
If somehow we could connect with them and they told us and you, no, the song has nothing to do with what Lori is saying.
Would you accept their answer ?
the way they were hauling her out, i assumed they uncovered her.
oh, that's why i didn't see a craft. the symbols are probably the same ones the band uses for artwork, cd covers, tee's etc.Yes, all too vague to be sure. It's not a documentary that's for sure.
I don't see how those two things relate at all. Please clarify for me.
start again (being born again) with a brand new name (sealed with the name of god) and eyes that see into infinity (eternal life).
you're not even trying. lol...
the way they were hauling her out, i assumed they uncovered her.
oh, that's why i didn't see a craft. the symbols are probably the same ones the band uses for artwork, cd covers, tee's etc.
start again (being born again) with a brand new name (sealed with the name of god) and eyes that see into infinity (eternal life).
you're not even trying. lol...
Well remember that I don't do scripture. So what is in the bible to me is just nonsense. It's a book filled to the rim with errors. So I don't accept anything in it as the word of god.
But, let's just put that aside for the discussion.
How does "scripture that says the name of god will be sealed onto the 144,000? " and "start again with a brand new name and eyes that see into infinity"..."
Correlate with the 144,000. Do you see 144,000 in the video somewhere.
there's also the consideration that they did this to me. they know what they did, they know who i am, they know where i live, they know my name. if they wanted to contact me, they would
to be honest, i don't really feel like that's my responsibility.
these guys know what's going on more than i do. they know of a bigger picture than i do. they (somehow) know the future. they know what to do, and i am confident that when the time is right, they will, and so will i.
if they said those songs weren't about me i would accept that they were lying.
Well remember that I don't do scripture. So what is in the bible to me is just nonsense. It's a book filled to the rim with errors. So I don't accept anything in it as the word of god.
But, let's just put that aside for the discussion.
How does "scripture that says the name of god will be sealed onto the 144,000? " and "start again with a brand new name and eyes that see into infinity"..."
Correlate with the 144,000. Do you see 144,000 in the video somewhere.
well the song doesn't specify 144,000, but it does everything else.
How do you know they know. You haven't made contact with them.
Well, I would think you would want to verify.
How do you know ? What have they predicted thus far that has come true ?
Come to pass ?
So basically, you have convinced yourself of these things to a point that even if they told you no, your wrong about all of it, you would just make them liars to continue the belief.
That is very interesting.
well the song doesn't specify 144,000, but it does everything else.
It doesn't specify anything else because by your own admission it's all just an interpretation. We don't know what they mean, we are only guessing.