I'm addressing (and debunking) your entire rgument, how is that being selective?
the argument is composed of more than what you replied to, for example, you said nothing about my entity a and entity b example, which is a way of a
demonstration of my point.
Yes I do mind. If you must wreck my name at least simply shorten it to "D".
lol no prob D, does it have to be capital?
I did: but it involves you reading the rest of my post.
examples please. ones we can work on..
Of course not: this is an illustration of your failure to understand the argument.
When we say "There is an 80% chance the cat will pick.." we are operating under assumptions: the choices (or possible outcomes) are much larger than we consider - if the cat falls over dead we'd simply say "Oh, that doesn't count, we'll try again"*.
if knowing the outcome of the cat's choice by 80% of certainty doesn't take away 80% of the cat's free will, why would knowing the outcome of its choice with a 100% degree of certainty strip it of it's free will and ability to chose 100%?
hope you are seeing it now..
If the outcome (A or B) is known irrefutably beforehand then there was no choice, whatever we might tell ourselves.
possible combinations of "know" and "choose":
1-knowledge, no choice:
god knows you'll die naked, and forces you to die so, you have no choice in the matter, he sends a demon to strip you and slit your throat.
2-choice, no knowledge:
there is no god, the future does not exist, only as it folds into present, you see the biggest meteor coming to wipe up your city, you choose whether to die naked or not.
3-no choice, no knowledge:
same as the previous scenario(2), except a junkie across the street pins you to the ground and insists you die naked, or any other thing that is forced upon you and takes away your ability to carry out your choice, like sudden death, or whatever.
4-choice, knowledge:
god knows whether you die naked or not, the meteor is coming your way, you wonder if it'll hurt more if you have your cloths on or not, you hesitate, make up your mind, and do it.
fifty thousand billion years ago, a holy piece of parchment had your name, longitude and latitude coordinates, date and time of death up to the milli second, and the exact size, color, brand name of the cloths you're wearing(or not) at the time of your death.
mister D, did you make the choice of how to die or no? were you forced it? does that stop it being known? am i not awesome?
Of course not. Again.
If the script is already written that we will choose A then how, possibly, could we choose B?
And if we could not choose B then the illusion that we had a choice is merely that: an illusion.
'a 'a...cont-ra-diction..
the script is already written that we will "what" A?
why would we not choose B? well because we chose A of course:m:
if wanted to go against the script and choose B instead, the script would turn out to be B and not A, and here you see how crucial it is that we DON'T KNOW what is written in the script, so we can't even
claim we are forced on anything, because we don't know what it's we're supposed to do, to try and go against it.
If god exists and choices ARE predestined the dictionary definition (by definition) becomes invalid.
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If god knows that we will choose A then we MUST choose A, otherwise god will be proven wrong.
capitalizing MUST changes nothing,
mister D, you are offered a snickers and a twix bar, listen carefully, you MUST choose your predestined choice, we all know that you're rebellious and a trouble seeker and you don't like being forced into anything, so you'll try to disoby and choose the one other than the one predetermined to you, but uh, the catch is, we don't know which one you MUST choose...heh, it's like saying you MUST choose that which you MUST choose..nothing new there..
yeah it is, hope you get it now.
Either the choice is known, and therefore is not a choice, or it is not known and we do have a choice.
lol, demonstrate, by an example..
