Pachomius, you repeatedly tell everyone to "think on facts and logic" yet you fail to practice what you preach. You make claims, repeatedly the same stock phrases over and over again, but at no time in your 180 posts of waffle have I seen you actually employ what you tell others to do: You have offered no facts; You have not demonstrated any logic.
There may well be some there, but you have refused, through continual inaction, to provide it when asked.
Instead you withdraw to other questions, or seek other people to "discuss" with. And so we go round the houses.
I expect you to respond to those who have had the decency to reply to you, and for you to do so in a manner that actually progresses the discussion.
If you remove all question-begging from your explanation you can only conclude "I don't know why." There may simply be no explanation as to Why.
And since you repeatedly insist of others that they "think on facts and logic" I am sure you are more than capable of providing an argument that is so devoid of such fallacious logic.
As for the How, we have a reasonable idea as to how life began, which the others have covered.
We have ideas as to how the universe began as well (interaction of branes etc) but nothing we can say with any degree of certainty, other than some notions follow from our understanding of how the universe works better than others.[/quote]
There may well be some there, but you have refused, through continual inaction, to provide it when asked.
Instead you withdraw to other questions, or seek other people to "discuss" with. And so we go round the houses.
I expect you to respond to those who have had the decency to reply to you, and for you to do so in a manner that actually progresses the discussion.
Explanation can cover both the How and the Why, but in the case of our existence, or the existence of the universe, there is no explanation that can cover Why without presupposing the purpose (I.e. Question begging).Pachomius said:
- Okay atheists here, please give your explanation for the existence of the universe and of man.
But first tell mankind what is your concept of explanation.
If you remove all question-begging from your explanation you can only conclude "I don't know why." There may simply be no explanation as to Why.
And since you repeatedly insist of others that they "think on facts and logic" I am sure you are more than capable of providing an argument that is so devoid of such fallacious logic.
As for the How, we have a reasonable idea as to how life began, which the others have covered.
We have ideas as to how the universe began as well (interaction of branes etc) but nothing we can say with any degree of certainty, other than some notions follow from our understanding of how the universe works better than others.[/quote]