I can't decide if you're funny or morbid
I consider the whole tone of your address to me in your untitled 7/24 response to my inquiry about age utterly and completely disrespectful and inappropriate. You utterly failed to address the point and resorted to lowbrow machismo and sarcasm. ("Ah I guess he must have used butter!")
It was almost a morbidly funny comedy routine, but it lacked any substantial point. Pointlessness combined with disrespect is something I regard as problematic.
And your next response was simply shameful, and you went downhill from there:
- Tiassa you need to meet a better variety of men if you the ones you know would ENVY Mohammed for having a nine year old wife! (Saccharine at best.)
- Is this really what you believe men fancy? (Well, if you actually read the post you were responding to instead of playing knee-jerk-Joe, you wouldn't have had to ask that question, even for effect.)
- Sorry but the men I know would have no part in that. (This kind of self-righteous idiocy always brings conflicting emotions. The sheer stupidity of it is laughable, but the danger of such sentiments is unacceptable. I know a woman who believed that very thing and two of her daughters have spent thousands of hours recovering from their traumas.)
- Tiassa why would you expect your daughter to be sexually active at the age of 11? (It would be irresponsible of me to not recognize the possibility. You are, in fact, the only person I know of who looks at me funny for it. Of course, that doesn't surprise me, given the lengths you'll go to in order to have a problem with me.)
- I don't hate Islam or any other religion, actually I have absolutely no use for religion at all! This is not about Islam. Jesus can kiss my ass with his self-righteous suicide and the Buddha is of no use unless he is willing to sit down and have a beer with me (and he did once ) (When someone starts a sentence, "I don't hate ...," there's usually a doozy coming. Thank you for living up to my expectations. It wouldn't even merit mention at all if you hadn't rushed to prove yourself a pompous liar in the next sentences.
- You say Mohammed married a young woman, well if she was six she was not a young woman. (I offered you a chance to address this point honestly, but you chose to avoid it. As such, your inaccuracy stands as a calculated lie.)
- Okay Tiassa I read the paper but I do not think I understand your point exactly (This was more of a disappointment to me. Specifically, it seems you forgot why you were reading it. Nonetheless, your persistent idiot-routine starts to officially wear thin somewhere around this failure.)
- The fact that pre-pubescent females is a part of American history also isn't an issue here, as I stated earlier my only position is that a six year old is in no position now, tomorrow, or a thousand years ago to consent to a sexual relationship with an adult. (This particular point of yours was frustrating for its lack of relevance. I'm not sure, but I don't think it had become clear to me that you had actually decided to have a topic of your own within the topic.)
- How do you keep your hands off of children is beyond me. (I cannot quantify the damage you did to your own reputation and my ability to respect you with that.)
- I have not commented on the validity of the text, what the said story has to say about Islam, I did not comment on all the dribble showing religious quotations or ANY of that. It is you who decided to enter into an argument with my opinion based on some religious argument or debate about sexual proclivities, historical precedence and cultural trends. (Whoops ... I forgot one. It's a little out of order, but here you've confessed that you never at any point intended to respect the topic. In fact, you even go so far as to make it into an accusation of wrongdoing that I discuss the topic in its terms. Don't point your accusations at me when you don't know what you're talking about.)
- I was sexually abused from the age of five to eleven by a male who was not a member of my household, but otherwise had entre ... (I found it interesting that this was your excuse for irrelevance and disrespect.)
- Disrespectful? I have every right to be disrespectful. (You said it, not me. And by the way, no, you don't.)
- I am under thirty and part of the "youthful" culture so I guess I don't find much to fuss about. (Your vanity is entertaining, but in the grand scheme of things, it's not offensive. I just wanted to have another chuckle at it.)
- The thread began with a simple story of Aisha, and left it open for everyone to add their two cents. (This, among your most reprehensible lies, comes after I've already corrected your notion by pointing you to the topic post.)
- But hey you can always go to the appropriate forum and start a thread on the subject. (The funny thing about this misrepresentation--e.g. lie--is that starting a relevant topic in a relevant forum was something I've suggested in our discussion.)
- As everyone else will read your response to my posts and your constant harrasment and insane need to attack my character, I need not defend myself since you have so successfully though ungracefully fallen off your own moral high horse. (Wrong on all counts. Most people don't read my posts when they get this long and focused on one person. Furthermore, as I've established with even this paltry examination of your piss-poor attitude, blatant disrespect, and outright dishonesty, a closer examination would not be kind to your reputation. Above and beyond that, your cowardice speaks volumes for itself. As to my moral high horse ... perhaps you ought to pay more attention. This brand of excoriation is par for the course; people have long ago learned to turn an eye and wait for it to end. You're receiving the same treatment from me as any two-bit, upstart, disrespectful-and-proud-of-it punk around here eventually gets.)
- Be specific. (Do you really think you're the first person to think of that routine? The only one who was ever any good at demanding what they ignored was Adam, and he's not around any more. This is one of the reasons people simply turn away from these disagreements and leave me to it.)
- Anyway Tiassa I don't document harrassments they are above board for everyone to see if there is indeed a case of harrassment. (Well, you can always complain to a moderator. And in addition to the facts, I also have on my side the volume of words going on in our disagreement. If you intend to establish a harassment case, you shouldn't expect other people to do it for you. That, also is an old hack routine that, thankfully, people have generally learned not to bother with.)
- Anyway I have not attacked you in any way and took on a defensive position only when you began to stoop to that level yourself. (Your god-given right to be disrespectful was pretty apparent before you declared it to the whole damn world. Affirmations like this sound more like you hope to convince yourself that what you say is true.)
- I could have raised hell over that last long post you wrote with referrences to my sexuality and character but why bother. (Why don't you? And then we can discuss whether or not you have a right to be disrespectful at these forums.)
- Actually I have not stooped to anything unless you are pissed that I spoke irreverantly about the prophets .... (Actually, you've stooped to lying on a number of occasions. That particular routine has got to be giving you a sore back by now.
I was wondering, since I've put such an effort into addressing your points, if you could do me a favor. It will help me understand problematic posters such as yourself in the future.
Simply: Every now and then a poster irritates me so greatly that I document a portion of the conversation and ask the poster to explain their position in light of that evidence. This is generally where the "harassment" crying starts. You are no different in that. What I would like to know is why is it that people wait until they're absolutely nailed to the wall before they resort to crying foul?
I've never gotten a coherent answer out of anybody on that point, though, "What the f@ck is your problem?!" isn't generally considered an effective way of finding that answer.
So here I'm going to borrow one of my favorite lines from a talking animal. In the words of Brian Griffith: "I'll be in the gazebo since you're already up on the cross."
:m:,
Tiassa
I already was. That seemed to upset you into embittered retreat.
Seems to me your complaint is just groundless whining, then.
Lying does nothing to increase my respect for you.
You see ... if your complaint had any merit, you could demonstrate this.
I consider the whole tone of your address to me in your untitled 7/24 response to my inquiry about age utterly and completely disrespectful and inappropriate. You utterly failed to address the point and resorted to lowbrow machismo and sarcasm. ("Ah I guess he must have used butter!")
It was almost a morbidly funny comedy routine, but it lacked any substantial point. Pointlessness combined with disrespect is something I regard as problematic.
And your next response was simply shameful, and you went downhill from there:
- Tiassa you need to meet a better variety of men if you the ones you know would ENVY Mohammed for having a nine year old wife! (Saccharine at best.)
- Is this really what you believe men fancy? (Well, if you actually read the post you were responding to instead of playing knee-jerk-Joe, you wouldn't have had to ask that question, even for effect.)
- Sorry but the men I know would have no part in that. (This kind of self-righteous idiocy always brings conflicting emotions. The sheer stupidity of it is laughable, but the danger of such sentiments is unacceptable. I know a woman who believed that very thing and two of her daughters have spent thousands of hours recovering from their traumas.)
- Tiassa why would you expect your daughter to be sexually active at the age of 11? (It would be irresponsible of me to not recognize the possibility. You are, in fact, the only person I know of who looks at me funny for it. Of course, that doesn't surprise me, given the lengths you'll go to in order to have a problem with me.)
- I don't hate Islam or any other religion, actually I have absolutely no use for religion at all! This is not about Islam. Jesus can kiss my ass with his self-righteous suicide and the Buddha is of no use unless he is willing to sit down and have a beer with me (and he did once ) (When someone starts a sentence, "I don't hate ...," there's usually a doozy coming. Thank you for living up to my expectations. It wouldn't even merit mention at all if you hadn't rushed to prove yourself a pompous liar in the next sentences.
- You say Mohammed married a young woman, well if she was six she was not a young woman. (I offered you a chance to address this point honestly, but you chose to avoid it. As such, your inaccuracy stands as a calculated lie.)
- Okay Tiassa I read the paper but I do not think I understand your point exactly (This was more of a disappointment to me. Specifically, it seems you forgot why you were reading it. Nonetheless, your persistent idiot-routine starts to officially wear thin somewhere around this failure.)
- The fact that pre-pubescent females is a part of American history also isn't an issue here, as I stated earlier my only position is that a six year old is in no position now, tomorrow, or a thousand years ago to consent to a sexual relationship with an adult. (This particular point of yours was frustrating for its lack of relevance. I'm not sure, but I don't think it had become clear to me that you had actually decided to have a topic of your own within the topic.)
- How do you keep your hands off of children is beyond me. (I cannot quantify the damage you did to your own reputation and my ability to respect you with that.)
- I have not commented on the validity of the text, what the said story has to say about Islam, I did not comment on all the dribble showing religious quotations or ANY of that. It is you who decided to enter into an argument with my opinion based on some religious argument or debate about sexual proclivities, historical precedence and cultural trends. (Whoops ... I forgot one. It's a little out of order, but here you've confessed that you never at any point intended to respect the topic. In fact, you even go so far as to make it into an accusation of wrongdoing that I discuss the topic in its terms. Don't point your accusations at me when you don't know what you're talking about.)
- I was sexually abused from the age of five to eleven by a male who was not a member of my household, but otherwise had entre ... (I found it interesting that this was your excuse for irrelevance and disrespect.)
- Disrespectful? I have every right to be disrespectful. (You said it, not me. And by the way, no, you don't.)
- I am under thirty and part of the "youthful" culture so I guess I don't find much to fuss about. (Your vanity is entertaining, but in the grand scheme of things, it's not offensive. I just wanted to have another chuckle at it.)
- The thread began with a simple story of Aisha, and left it open for everyone to add their two cents. (This, among your most reprehensible lies, comes after I've already corrected your notion by pointing you to the topic post.)
- But hey you can always go to the appropriate forum and start a thread on the subject. (The funny thing about this misrepresentation--e.g. lie--is that starting a relevant topic in a relevant forum was something I've suggested in our discussion.)
- As everyone else will read your response to my posts and your constant harrasment and insane need to attack my character, I need not defend myself since you have so successfully though ungracefully fallen off your own moral high horse. (Wrong on all counts. Most people don't read my posts when they get this long and focused on one person. Furthermore, as I've established with even this paltry examination of your piss-poor attitude, blatant disrespect, and outright dishonesty, a closer examination would not be kind to your reputation. Above and beyond that, your cowardice speaks volumes for itself. As to my moral high horse ... perhaps you ought to pay more attention. This brand of excoriation is par for the course; people have long ago learned to turn an eye and wait for it to end. You're receiving the same treatment from me as any two-bit, upstart, disrespectful-and-proud-of-it punk around here eventually gets.)
- Be specific. (Do you really think you're the first person to think of that routine? The only one who was ever any good at demanding what they ignored was Adam, and he's not around any more. This is one of the reasons people simply turn away from these disagreements and leave me to it.)
- Anyway Tiassa I don't document harrassments they are above board for everyone to see if there is indeed a case of harrassment. (Well, you can always complain to a moderator. And in addition to the facts, I also have on my side the volume of words going on in our disagreement. If you intend to establish a harassment case, you shouldn't expect other people to do it for you. That, also is an old hack routine that, thankfully, people have generally learned not to bother with.)
- Anyway I have not attacked you in any way and took on a defensive position only when you began to stoop to that level yourself. (Your god-given right to be disrespectful was pretty apparent before you declared it to the whole damn world. Affirmations like this sound more like you hope to convince yourself that what you say is true.)
- I could have raised hell over that last long post you wrote with referrences to my sexuality and character but why bother. (Why don't you? And then we can discuss whether or not you have a right to be disrespectful at these forums.)
- Actually I have not stooped to anything unless you are pissed that I spoke irreverantly about the prophets .... (Actually, you've stooped to lying on a number of occasions. That particular routine has got to be giving you a sore back by now.
Maybe it's your self-righteous disrespect and nearly criminal stupidity? Just maybe?
I was wondering, since I've put such an effort into addressing your points, if you could do me a favor. It will help me understand problematic posters such as yourself in the future.
Simply: Every now and then a poster irritates me so greatly that I document a portion of the conversation and ask the poster to explain their position in light of that evidence. This is generally where the "harassment" crying starts. You are no different in that. What I would like to know is why is it that people wait until they're absolutely nailed to the wall before they resort to crying foul?
I've never gotten a coherent answer out of anybody on that point, though, "What the f@ck is your problem?!" isn't generally considered an effective way of finding that answer.
So here I'm going to borrow one of my favorite lines from a talking animal. In the words of Brian Griffith: "I'll be in the gazebo since you're already up on the cross."
:m:,
Tiassa