Pariah I knew, but for some reason I keep getting Saturn and Jupiter (Jovial) mixed up...so I thought you were happy about being a pariah.
Bah, Romans, feed 'em to the lions!
People created god?
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Pariah I knew, but for some reason I keep getting Saturn and Jupiter (Jovial) mixed up...so I thought you were happy about being a pariah.
Bah, Romans, feed 'em to the lions!
rather dumb metaphor if the lesson is wrong.
The only thing you recieve from god is a mental illness. If someone was saying a fly was talking to him and he follows the fly around, do you not consider that person not healthy?
WELL MAYBE HE WAS TALKING TO GOD!
Bible is more over the top than disney, i dont believe in fairy tales sorry.
And the idiocy in the world is not being adressed not by an intelligent being that is for sure. hence why there still millions that think pork meat is dangerous for you.....
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Could you repeat that one for me?
I meant the thread I started on religion. I cant post links yet, look for my threads on my profile.
Is this a God you created?
Prove to me God does not exist and I'll think about what you said.
Better yet I'll give you the full quote from the Koran.
(God telling the believer to say)"Even if I have invented it, yet do you control anything from God for me? He is quite Aware of what you are engaged in; He suffices as a Witness between me and you. He is the Forgiving, the Merciful." SAY: "I am no upstart among messengers. I do not know what will happen to me nor to you. I only follow what has been inspired in me, and am merely a plain warner."
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If he talks to a fly sure, hes as crazy as you atheists but that is a fly.
We are talking about you controlling anything I receive from God? Do you?
Al That is me , you should not package every believer in the same package , every one of us have a free choice to interpret as it is fit to our understanding . Is the same thing with you . Not every Jew interprets Who a Jew is .
I do not control anything i do not believe in. Period.
Its rather simple minded to claim that the one that talked to a fly is crazy. Maybe the fly was an instrument of god to contact a human being. Do not forget that you also believe in something that is as ridiculous as a fly could be. If we would be really created there is no guarantee we see the same reality as our creator would. I challenge any religious person to show me any proof of gods existence. I believe he may or may not exist, its highly unlikely according to my believes but there is always at least a 0.something chance. There are no facts that he does not exist, so i would never claim there are facts, but you religious people do. That is rather narrow minded if you claim something to be 100% true and not be able to prove it in any way but voices in a popes or profets head.
You don't control anything I receive even if you believe in Him or not. Quote is in The Koran for people who believe in God to tell people who like to argue about such things. Smart Fellow He is. Wise.
No, a fly has a body and I can see it and touch it so it is from this realm. I doubt anyone has seen God or touched God. It is not the same in any way.
"Or were they created out of nothing, or are they their own creators? Or did they create Heaven and Earth? Rather they will never be convinced."-Koran
Another quote from the Koran. You will never be convinced unless I show you magic tricks. That God Fellow is pretty Wise for a 1500 year old fairy tale.
Lesson here don't listen to "those religious people" you so heard they say and do and nonsense. Go read The Koran, The Bible, and Torah. Make an assessment and think about it, use your reason and see what you find. The burden of proof is on yourself if you want to believe in God, not on someone else.
"God does not change what any people may have
until they change whatever they themselves have."-Koran
I've read the Koran too. Wasn't it an angel talking rather than God?
Well give me that quote again and break it down to what God said and what Gabriel said please?
Well give me that quote again and break it down to what God said and what Gabriel said please?
Short version - SAY: 'Who is Gabriel's enemy? He has brought it down for your heart with God's permission, to confirm what came before it and as guidance and good news for believers. Who is an enemy of God and His angels and His messengers, as well as of Gabriel and Michael? Anyhow, God is an enemy of disbelievers! We have sent you down clear signs; only immoral people disbelieve in them. *Each time they swear an oath, does a group of them shrug it off? Rather most of them do not even believe.
Long version - Read All of The Koran.
That whole bit sounds like a frustrated angel to me.
Saying something like: "We've done all this work and we have not succeeded in getting the population of this region to believe in God."
@ND so is the Koran your source of messages from God?
All the arguments are written in some form or other. The internet forums is a written communication too.