Oxnard shooting victim has died

John99 i know we have high car theft and Burglary (by the way i think you left out decimal points in some of those, Australia had 3.9 percent and then holand had 25 percent, i think you men 2.5%)

Actually i have PERSONALLY been the victom of an atempted car theft. I parked my car in Alexandra road on my way back to SA (i had gone to melbourn to pick up my new car from my parents), to nick into a shop to use the toilet. Came back and there was a cop car packed behind my car and 2 cops looking at my car. Made an offhand coment of "please dont tell me i parked in a no parking zone" and the cop asks "is this your car sir". I say yes and he tells me this guy was trying to break into the boot (they caught the basted in the act:D). After sitting at the cop shop for 2 hours and filling out a statement to say i never gave permission for ANYONE to try to get into my boot with a screwdriver (i seriously couldnt belive the cop wanted me to put this into the statement, if i had wanted someone in my car i would have given them the keys) i FINALLY got on my way back to SA

Anyway the point of this story is that i would MUCH rather have the incoveniance of this (and having to replace the lock on the boot of my car) than being SHOT
 
John99 said:
The percentage of the population that suffered "contact crime" in England and Wales was 3.6 percent, compared with 1.9 percent in the United States and 0.4 percent in Japan.
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Asguard said:
John99 i know we have high car theft and Burglary

Actually i have PERSONALLY been the victom of an atempted car theft.

Anyway the point of this story is that i would MUCH rather have the incoveniance of this (and having to replace the lock on the boot of my car) than being SHOT
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Yes, well, I've never been robbed or shot. The fact that potential victims may be packing heat is why "contact crime" is lower in the US than Australia.

I'd venture to say that one of the reasons school shootings are such a problem is that schools are one of the few places in the US no one is legally allowed to have a gun. So if you want a bunch of defenseless people to shoot without worrying about anyone shooting back, go to a school!

Someone tryed to shoot up a pizza hut and was almost immediately killed by another customer. A much happier ending than when a wackjob starts shooting at a school.
 
mad thats crap, (BTW noticed you ignored my road safty post)

Look at the murder rates of counties with gun laws v the US

Its ALOT higher in the US

Oh and we dont have school shootings either, (well there was ONE at monash uni 5 years ago) and we have gun control
 
But Anthony i have never been robbed and TBH i dont even know too many people who have been either. Hell i used to walk through the projects at 3am too.
 
mad thats crap, (BTW noticed you ignored my road safty post)

Look at the murder rates of counties with gun laws v the US

Its ALOT higher in the US

Oh and we dont have school shootings either, (well there was ONE at monash uni 5 years ago) and we have gun control
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Yeah, and where most of the murders happen in the U.S., they tend to be in big cities that already have gun control laws or outright bans on them yet they still happen. The types of people that tend to die and get murdered are criminals and also the poor. Poverty is the problem, fighting for survival, not guns themselves as most everyone else does just fine with em.

- N
 
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http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1364855&postcount=217

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=56596

Anyways, using those stats, keeping in mind that guns are practically banned in those countries and not here in the U.S. except in the big cities where most of our crime occurs, here's the stats according to that site:

Edit: It's also interesting to read the little tidbit facts shown in these lists that gives more detail to various things.

Assaults per capita:

#6 United States 7.56923 per 1,000 people
#8 United Kingdom 7.45959 per 1,000 people
#9 Canada 7.11834 per 1,000 people
#10 Australia 7.02459 per 1,000 people

Burglaries per capita:

#1 Australia 21.7454 per 1,000 people
#7 United Kingdom 13.8321 per 1,000 people
#9 Canada 8.94425 per 1,000 people
#17 United States 7.09996 per 1,000 people

Car thefts per capita:

#1 Australia 6.92354 per 1,000 people
#3 United Kingdom 5.6054 per 1,000 people
#7 Canada 4.88547 per 1,000 people
#9 United States 3.8795 per 1,000 people

Manslaughter's per capita:

#11 Australia 0.0147337 per 1,000 people
#40 Canada 0.00158512 per 1,000 people

US and UK not shown on list.

Murders overall per capita:

#24 United States 0.042802 per 1,000 people
#43 Australia 0.0150324 per 1,000 people
#44 Canada 0.0149063 per 1,000 people
#46 United Kingdom 0.0140633 per 1,000 people

Murders with firearms per capita:

#8 United States 0.0279271 per 1,000 people
#20 Canada 0.00502972 per 1,000 people
#27 Australia 0.00293678 per 1,000 people
#32 United Kingdom 0.00102579 per 1,000 people

Perceptions of safety from burglary:

#4 United States 78%
#7 Canada 66%
#10 United Kingdom 58%
#11 Australia 57%

Perceptions of safety walking in the dark:

#2 United States 82%
#3 Canada 82%
#12 United Kingdom 70%
#14 Australia 64%

Police per capita:

#32 Australia 2.09293 per 1,000 people
#34 United Kingdom 2.04871 per 1,000 people
#42 Canada 1.70767 per 1,000 people

US not shown on list.

Reporting to police:

#6 United Kingdom 53%
#7 United States 52%
#9 Australia 50%
#11 Canada 48%

Property crime victims:

#2 Australia 13.9%
#4 United Kingdom 12.2%
#6 Canada 10.4%
#7 United States 10%

Rapes per capita:

#3 Australia 0.777999 per 1,000 people
#5 Canada 0.733089 per 1,000 people
#9 United States 0.301318 per 1,000 people
#13 United Kingdom 0.142172 per 1,000 people

Robberies per capita:

#8 United Kingdom 1.57433 per 1,000 people
#11 United States 1.38527 per 1,000 people
#15 Australia 1.16048 per 1,000 people
#22 Canada 0.823411 per 1,000 people

Suicide rates ages 15-24:

#4 Canada 15 per 100,000 people
#6 Australia 14.6 per 100,000 people
#7 United States 13.7 per 100,000 people
#15 United Kingdom 6.7 per 100,000 people

Suicide rates ages 25-34:

#7 Australia 18.7 per 100,000 people
#8 Canada 18 per 100,000 people
#10 United States 15.3 per 100,000 people
#15 United Kingdom 10.6 per 100,000 people

Suicide rates ages 35-44:

#8 Canada 19.2 per 100,000 people
#10 Australia 15.9 per 100,000 people
#12 United States 15.3 per 100,000 people
#16 United Kingdom 11.4 per 100,000 people

Suicide rates ages 45-54:

#10 Canada 18.5 per 100,000 people
#11 Australia 14.7 per 100,000 people
#13 United States 14.3 per 100,000 people
#16 United Kingdom 9.3 per 100,000 people

Suicide rates ages 55-64:

#11 Canada 15.1 per 100,000 people
#12 Australia 13.7 per 100,000 people
#14 United States 13.3 per 100,000 people
#17 United Kingdom 7.9 per 100,000 people

Suicide rates ages 65-74

#11 United States 15.3 per 100,000 people
#14 Canada 12.1 per 100,000 people
#15 Australia 11.8 per 100,000 people
#17 United Kingdom 7.5 per 100,000 people

Suicide rates 75+

#10 United States 22 per 100,000 people
#12 Australia 16 per 100,000 people
#15 Canada 12.2 per 100,000 people
#16 United Kingdom 9.2 per 100,000 people

Total crimes per capita:

#6 United Kingdom 85.5517 per 1,000 people
#8 United States 80.0645 per 1,000 people
#12 Canada 75.4921 per 1,000 people

Australia not shown.


Okay, I'm running out of big cities to think of. Someone gimme a few more that have high crime rates so I can get the stats and see who's in charge of the cesspool:

- N

Mayors of Washington D.C.:

Walter Washington 1975 1979 Democrat
Marion S. Barry 1979 1991 Democrat
Sharon Pratt Kelly * 1991 1995 Democrat
Marion S. Barry 1995 1999 Democrat
Anthony A. Williams 1999 present Democrat


Mayors of Chicago, IL:

Richard Joseph Daley 1955-1976 - Democrat
Michael Anthony Bilandic 1976-1979 - Democrat
Jane Margaret Byrne 1979-1983 - Democrat
Harold Washington 1983-1987 - Democrat
David Duvall Orr 1987-1987 - Democrat
Eugene Sawyer 1987-1989 - Democrat
Richard Michael Daley 1989-present - Democrat

Mayors of New York City, NY:

William O'Dwyer (Ω) 1946 - 1950 Democratic
Vincent R. Impellitteri (≈) 1950 - 1953 Democratic
Robert F. Wagner Jr. 1954 - 1965 Democratic
John V. Lindsay 1966 - 1973 Republican/Liberal
Abraham D. Beame 1974 - 1977 Democratic
Edward I. Koch 1978 - 1989 Democratic
David N. Dinkins 1990 - 1993 Democratic
Rudolph W. Giuliani 1994 - 2001 Republican (HE ACTUALLY CLEANED UP THE CITY WHILE IN OFFICE)
Michael R. Bloomberg 2002-present Republican

Mayors of Detroit, MI:

# 1962-1970 Jerome Cavanagh - Democrat
# 1970-1974 Roman Gribbs - Democrat
# 1974-1994 Coleman Young - Democrat
# 1994-2002 Dennis Archer - Democrat
# 2002-present Kwame Kilpatrick - Democrat

Mayors of Atlanta, GA:

Ivan Allen, Jr. 1962 - 1970 Democrat
Sam Massell 1970 - 1974 Democrat
Maynard Jackson 1974 - 1982 Democrat
Andrew Young 1982 - 1990 Democrat
Maynard Jackson 1990 - 1994 Democrat
Bill Campbell 1994 - 2002 Democrat
Shirley Franklin 2002 - Present Democrat

Mayors of Los Angeles, CA:

46 Fletcher Bowron 1938–1953 Democratic
47 C. Norris Poulson 1953–1961 Republican
48 Samuel W. Yorty 1961–1973 Democratic+
49 Thomas Bradley 1973–1993 Democratic
50 Richard J. Riordan 1993–2001 Republican
51 James K. Hahn 2001– 2005 Democratic
52 Antonio Villaraigosa July 1, 2005–present Democratic

Mayors of Oakland, CA:

43 May 1, 1966 John H. Reading - Republican
44 July 1, 1977 Lionel J. Wilson - Democrat
45 January 7, 1991 Elihu M. Harris - Democrat
46 January 4, 1999 Jerry Brown - Democrat
47 January 8, 2007 Ronald V. Dellums - Democrat

Mayors of San Francisco, CA:

John F. Shelley 1964-68 - Democrat
Joseph Alioto 1968-76 - Democrat
George Moscone 1976-78 - Democrat
Dianne Feinstein 1978-88 - Democrat
Art Agnos 1988-92 - ???
Frank Jordan 1992-96 - Independent
Willie Brown 1996-2004 - Democrat
Gavin Newsom 2004-present - Democrat

Mayors of New Orleans, LA:

55th 1961-1970 Victor H. Schiro - Democrat
56th 1970-1978 Moon Landrieu - Democrat
57th 1978-1986 Ernest Nathan Morial - Democrat
58th 1986-1994 Sidney Barthelemy - Republican
59th 1994-2002 Marc Morial - Democrat
60th 2002- C. Ray Nagin - Democrat

Mayors of Newark, NJ:

# 1962–1970: Hugh Joseph Addonizio - Democrat
# 1970–1986: Kenneth A. Gibson - Democrat
# 1986–2006: Sharpe James - Democrat
# 2006–present: Cory Booker - Democrat


Mayors of St. Louis, MO:

Joseph Darst 1949 1953 Democrat
Raymond Tucker 1953 1965 Democrat
Alfonso Cervantes 1965 1973 Democrat
John Poelker 1973 1977 Democrat
James Conway 1977 1981 Democrat
Vincent C. Schoemehl 1981 1993 Democrat
Freeman Bosley, Jr. 1993 1997 Democrat
Clarence Harmon 1997 2001 Democrat
Francis G. Slay 2001 -- Democrat

Mayors of Cincinnnati, OH:

1984-1991 Charles J. Luken Democratic
1991 David S. Mann (2nd) Democratic
1991-1993 Dwight Tillery Democratic
1993-1999 Roxanne Qualls Democratic
1999-2005 Charles J. Luken (2nd) Democratic
2006- Mark Mallory Democratic

Mayors of Cleveland, OH:

Ralph S. Locher 1962-1967 Democrat
Carl B. Stokes 1968-1971 Democrat
Ralph J. Perk 1972-1977 Republican
Dennis J. Kucinich 1978-1979 Democrat
George V. Voinovich 1980-1989 Republican
Michael R. White 1990-2001 Democrat

Mayors of Kansas City, MO:

# Ilus W. Davis 1963-1971 - Democrat
# Charles B. Wheeler, Jr. 1971-1979 - Democrat
# Richard L. Berkley 1979-1991 - Republican
# Emanuel Cleaver 1991-1999 - Democrat
# Kay Barnes 1999- - Democrat

Mayors of Philadelphia, PA:

Joseph S. Clark Jr. 1952 - 1956 Democratic
Richardson Dilworth 1956 - 1962 Democratic
James Hugh Joseph Tate 1962 - 1972 Democratic
Frank L. Rizzo 1972 - 1980 Democratic
William J. Green III 1980 - 1984 Democratic
W. Wilson Goode 1984 - 1992 Democratic
Edward G. Rendell 1992 - 2000 Democratic
John F. Street 2000 - present Democratic

Mayors of Baltimore, MD:

Theodore R. McKeldin 1963 1967 Republican
Thomas L. J. D'Alesandro III 1967 1971 Democrat
William Donald Schaefer 1971 1987 Democrat
Clarence H. Burns 1987 1987 Democrat
Kurt L. Schmoke 1987 1999 Democrat
Martin J. O'Malley 1999 – Democrat

Mayors of Memphis, TN: (NOT LISTED IN WIKIPEDIA, WENT TO http://www.worldstatesmen.org)

1960 - 1963 Henry Loeb (1st time)
1963 Claude Armour
1963 - 1967 William B. Ingram
1968 - 1971 Henry Loeb (2nd time)
1972 - 1982 Wyeth Chandler
1982 J.O. Patterson, Jr. Dem
1982 Wallace Madewell
1982 - 1991 Richard "Dick" C. Hackett Dem
1992 - Willie W. Herenton (b. 1940) Dem

Mayors of Miami, FL: (NOT LISTED IN WIKIPEDIA, WENT TO http://www.worldstatesmen.org)

2 Sep 1967 - 25 Nov 1970 Stephen P. Clark (1st time) (b. 1923 - d. 1996)
25 Nov 1970 - 11 Apr 1973 David T. Kennedy (1st time)
19 Apr 1973 - Aug 1973 Maurice A. Ferré (1st time) (b. 1935) Dem
Aug 1973 - Nov 1973 David T. Kennedy (2nd time)
8 Nov 1973 - 13 Nov 1985 Maurice A. Ferré (2nd time) (s.a.) Dem
13 Nov 1985 - 9 Nov 1993 Xavier L. Suarez (1st time) (b. 1949) Dem
9 Nov 1993 - 4 Jun 1996 Stephen P. Clark (2nd time) (s.a.)
4 Jun 1996 - 23 Jul 1996 Wilred Gort (acting)
23 Jul 1996 - 13 Nov 1997 Joseph "Joe" Carollo (1st time) (b. 1955) Dem
14 Nov 1997 - 4 Mar 1998 Xavier L. Suarez (2nd time) (s.a.) Dem
12 Mar 1998 - 19 Nov 2001 Joseph "Joe" Carollo (2nd time) (s.a.) Dem
19 Nov 2001 - Manuel "Manny" Diaz (b. 1954) Ind

Mayors of Houston, TX:

1964 - Jan 1974 Louis Welch (b. 1918)
Jan 1974 - 1978 Fred Hofheinz (b. 1938)
1978 - 1982 Jim McConn (b. 1928 - d. 1997)
1982 - 2 Jan 1992 Kathryn Jean Niederhofer (b. 1946) Dem
Whitmire (f)
2 Jan 1992 - 2 Jan 1998 Bob Lanier (b. 1925) Dem
2 Jan 1998 - 2 Jan 2004 Lee P. Brown (b. 1937) Dem
2 Jan 2004 - Bill White (b. 1954) Dem

Mayors of Boston, MA:

John B. Hynes (D) 1950 1960
John F. Collins (D) 1960 1968
Kevin H. White (D) 1968 1984
Raymond L. Flynn (D) 1984 1993
Thomas M. Menino (D) 1993 —

Mayors of Las Vegas, NV:

1959 - 1975 Oran K. Gragson (b. 1911 - d. 2002) Rep
1975 - 1987 William "Bill" H. Briare Dem
1987 - 1991 Ronald "Ron" Lurie
1991 - 1999 Jan Laverty Jones (f) (b. 1949) Dem
1999 - Oscar Goodman (b. 1939) Dem
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- N
 
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