Osama Bin Laden is Dead

EmptyForceOfChi said:
I haven't seen any convincing evidence to sway me enough to judge him to death. Protect my boarders? im a civilian not a member of the armed forces Im not insured to do that or even licensed to carry a firearm.

Why don't you go and hold down your boarders and go shoot some mexicans or something for daring to walk on their own continent.
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I'm british born and bred, so I am talking about my country.

Where were you on 7/7? Prostrating to mecca I imagine. *sigh* Didn't the London bombings bother you Chi? Didn't you feel as if the nation had been attacked within its borders? I mean I'm just asking.
 
Sock puppet path said:
You made the claim, back to your usual practice? I am not asking everyone I am asking you, who claimed he was a traitor to the ummah
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You asked me a question and I said I can't answer for the entire muslim community regarding how they behave as individuals.

I claimed he was a traitor, I didn't say you have to agree with my opinion.
 
quadraphonics said:
Fortunately for you, there's no shortage of fools who'll bite on the supposition that they need to prove something to you.
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Maybe, I am staggered by the implication that a country can be at war for 10 years based on an assumption for which it cannot even provide sufficient evidence to convince its own courts.

But yeah, I believe that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
 
S.A.M. said:
Maybe, I am staggered by the implication that a country can be at war for 10 years based on an assumption for which it cannot even provide sufficient evidence to convince its own courts.

But yeah, I believe that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
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In what court did they fail to provide evidence?
 
EmptyForceOfChi said:
You asked me a question and I said I can't answer for the entire muslim community regarding how they behave as individuals.

I claimed he was a traitor, I didn't say you have to agree with my opinion.
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And I asked if he was a traitor akin to the way you are a traitor in your opinion. Do you consider him a traitor because he doesn't believe/behave as the majority of the ummah?
 
Mrs.Lucysnow said:
I'm british born and bred, so I am talking about my country.

Where were you on 7/7? Prostrating to mecca I imagine. *sigh* Didn't the London bombings bother you Chi? Didn't you feel as if the nation had been attacked within its borders? I mean I'm just asking.
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I was actualy in King's cross while the bombs went off I was living in NW1 at the time, you think im going to run around in a panic blaming Osama just because of a Bomb going off. Scare tactics don't work on me nobody can force me to hate another or wage war on another group of people, I fight to defend my family and I have a calm head when fighting I don't enter into ittle hissy fits or rages due to exposions in my vicinity.
 
S.A.M. said:
Maybe, I am staggered by the implication that a country can be at war for 10 years based on an assumption for which it cannot even provide sufficient evidence to convince its own courts.

But yeah, I believe that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
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I mean really Sam its like pulling teeth. Why can't you give a straightforward answer to the following questions?

Are you denying that Bin Laden created, funded and led al-Qaeda?

Or are you denying that there is an al-qaeda?

Or are you implying that al-qaeda has never engaged in terrorism?

Because his guilt to any one of those questions is what had him on the most wanted list. I am asking you if you think Bin Laden is innocent of terrorism charges. I mean its only like the fourth time I've asked you.
 
EmptyForceOfChi said:
I was actualy in King's cross while the bombs went off I was living in NW1 at the time, you think im going to run around in a panic blaming Osama just because of a Bomb going off. Scare tactics don't work on me nobody can force me to hate another or wage war on another group of people, I fight to defend my family and I have a calm head when fighting I don't enter into ittle hissy fits or rages due to exposions in my vicinity.
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No one is speaking of hate. I am asking whether you agree or disagree that Bin Laden was a threat to security and safety and had to be stopped one way or another.
 
Mrs.Lucysnow said:
I mean really Sam its like pulling teeth. Why can't you give a straightforward answer to the following questions?

Are you denying that Bin Laden created, funded and led al-Qaeda?

Or are you denying that there is an al-qaeda?

Or are you implying that al-qaeda has never engaged in terrorism?

Because his guilt to any one of those questions is what had him on the most wanted list. I am asking you if you think Bin Laden is innocent of terrorism charges. I mean its only like the fourth time I've asked you.
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The straight answer is that I haven't seen any evidence to convince me of the above

And no he was not on the wanted list for 911. I believe a grand jury indicted him for the 1998 US embassy bombing, but he never stood trial for it so I don't know what the evidence is.
 
Not that I, for a moment, believe that you could possibly set aside your weird conspiracy-o-philia to consider the obvious reality, but here's a short reading list for you:

"The Looming Tower" - Lawrence Wright, for starters. (Pulitzer Prize Winner)
"Inside the Jihad" - Omar Nasiri
"Taliban: Militant Islam" - Ahmed Rashid
"Ghost Wars" - Steve Coll
"Jawbreaker" - Ralph Pazzullo
"Al Qaeda in Its Own Words" (which, like, actually uses its members OWN WORDS) - Professor Gilles Kepel, Jean-Pierre Milelli, Pascale Ghazaleh and Omar Saghi​

What's interesting is that this is but the tip of the iceberg. Numerous--as in THOUSANDS--of reporters have dug into this (probably one of the most investigated events in history) and all roads have always pointed to Rome. . . er. . . Al Qaeda and Afghanistan.

~String
 
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