Off-topic posts from the "Evidence that God is real" thread

[Xelasnave.1947]

Sorry for the confusion. Since your post was meant for Musika, I mockingly attempted to answer your request using Musika’s epistemology.

I was trying to play along☺
Alex

 

[Xelasnave.1947]

Sadly, it seems hate is part of human nature

I dont hate anymore.
A guy ticked me off recently addmityedly I went 24 hours planing his death but then I felt pity for him...I hope he is ok...for him to have a go at me tells me he was crying out for help.
When I see him I will help him.
I only got upset because he called me a dog after I helped him for years.... but for him to do that only means he is desparate and at his witts end.
Anyways JC said turn the other cheek love your fellow man etc...thats the bits that are useful to me so I use them.
Alex

 

[Write4U]

Did I miss the part where you took the notion of obedience outside of dumbed down definitions? (Or is that another victory we are obliged to notch up to your private realm?)

No, Obedience to natural law = Respect for a natural function. Natural laws are expressed in a hierarchical fashion, some which are controllable, some which are not and are dangerous if not respected or obeyed.
When it gets -30F = get warm jacket. Else you will die in a few minutes.

 

[StrangerInAStrangeLand]

I dont hate anymore.
A guy ticked me off recently addmityedly I went 24 hours planing his death but then I felt pity for him...I hope he is ok...for him to have a go at me tells me he was crying out for help.
When I see him I will help him.
I only got upset because he called me a dog after I helped him for years.... but for him to do that only means he is desparate and at his witts end.
Anyways JC said turn the other cheek love your fellow man etc...thats the bits that ate useful to me so I use them.
Alex

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I did not mean that everyone hates. I am an exception too.
I have had the same experience. Very frustrating but nothing to gain by hating the person.
Good to hear you are so understanding.

<>

 

[Xelasnave.1947]

You could always try moving to some place like the congo if you are after the genuine "zero authority" experience.

You are joking...do you think there is no authority there...try crossing the guy who owns the block or the villiage whatever and I assure you he will show you his authority.

If there are two humans there is authority.
Alex

 

[Musika]

You are joking...do you think there is no authority there...try crossing the guy who owns the block or the villiage whatever and I assure you he will show you his authority.

If there are two humans there is authority.
Alex

Oh.
So its not so much about being under authority, but having diminished authority, that is the source of all the problems

 

[Musika]

No,

I figured as much.

 

[James R]

Hmm... well, that's another 60 or so posts of personal bullshit flying back and forth, but still not much in the way of evidence coming the theists. Can you guys take the playground bickering to a different thread, perhaps, and leave this one for the adults?

 

[Xelasnave.1947]

Oh.
So its not so much about being under authority, but having diminished authority, that is the source of all the problems

Did I say that?
Alex

 

[Capracus]

I can see you have thought about the subject deeply.

Yes, I have thought deeply about the subject, that’s why I can crack wise about the faults with it. Though maybe pity would be more fitting than derision. I'll have to go give it some deep thought.

I was trying to play along☺
Alex

Sarcasm is often easier to deploy than to recognize.

 

[Capracus]

Hmm... well, that's another 60 or so posts of personal bullshit flying back and forth, but still not much in the way of evidence coming the theists. Can you guys take the playground bickering to a different thread, perhaps, and leave this one for the adults?

When you can't get a straight answer out of someone, what choice do have?

 

[Goldtop]

Your definition of God is dumbed down. Your presentation of social mechanics, for the sake of establishing victory over a dumbed down definition of God, is also dumbed down. No doubt all this helps you come to the conclusion that the solution is simple.

It's alright, you go ahead and believe that's what I said. I know you don't want honest discourse to get in the way of your argument.

 

[Musika]

It's alright, you go ahead and believe that's what I said. I know you don't want honest discourse to get in the way of your argument.

Labeling your discussion as honest grants you a trifecta of dumbing down.

 

[Goldtop]

Labeling your discussion as honest grants you a trifecta of dumbing down.

When you decide to read other peoples posts for their content rather than making up your own words and shoving them into others mouths, your posts might then move towards honest discourse. Until then.

 

[Write4U]

Brain fart (used to be Thought Bubble)

Does god have favourites he helps and analysis of certain information MIGHT be used as inferred evidence of existence?

Example

Teams playing a match. Both pray. One team wins by a large margin (10 - 6) even though the winning team lost their best player 10 minutes in

This keeps happening for the winning team, more against what would be considered resonable odds

Not quite to miracle level

Now
Is it because

• God likes the team
• The team has better PRAYERS
• The other team did something to piss god off
• Winning team has more supporters who prayed

Or is it because

• God is non existent so is not in the equation. Instead
• The team has better PLAYERS
• The other team leads a normal life which has no affect on a non existent god it's just that
• They not as good at the sport
• Praying for either team has no effect

1 week to discuss and turn in suggestions

One definite factor most likely is team empathy. The winning team has a unified mindset and their players are able to anticipate their teammates' moves just a split second before the other team's players, creating a split second advantage in timing.

 

[Write4U]

One definite factor most likely is team empathy. The winning team has a unified mindset and their playesrs are able to anticipate their teammates' moves just a split second before the other team's players, creating a split second advantage in timing.

And then there is the twelve player home field advantage, again an expression of empathy.

 

[Write4U]

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I did not mean that everyone hates. I am an exception too.
I have had the same experience. Very frustrating but nothing to gain by hating the person.
Good to hear you are so understanding.

<>

I have a somewhat self serving superior attitude, but it is effective when someone gets in my face.
My motto is; "People equal or above me don't insult me, people below me can't insult me"..

 

[billvon]

Which is why I have put forward my source. Craig says it way more ''succinctly'' that I ever could.

So you believe in evolution, but you do not think homosexuals should have rights - and you defend religious genocide. OK then.

 

[Jan Ardena]

I just had a funny image.

I wonder... were God to exist, is he saying "This is my flock??? They've apparently got all the faith in the world, and the ability to spread my word far and wide. But 'Look on the internet'??? That's the take-away? I'll smite them is what I'll do!"

If this God you propose, were to exist. What would this God be like?

jan.

 

[Jan Ardena]

So you believe in evolution, but you do not think homosexuals should have rights - and you defend religious genocide. OK then.

Psst! Over here guys.
Now this is an example of an off-topic thread.

Sorry Billvon. As you were.

jan.