not about atheism

Little_Birdie

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it seems as though all the threads in the religion section are about atheistists are there any belivers of any religion that would like to compare and debate with other belivers on sci forums
 
This is a science forum, so naturally the discussions about religion here would be centered on how religion and science relate or compete. Most importantly, discussions within a science forum should center on the scientific study of religion. Religion, after all, affects (afflicts?) the majority of society and, with economic globalization and the increased ability to offer global destruction, combined with the fact that religions of the past have been responsible for death and destruction, war and conflict -we need to understand religion thoroughly in order to be prepared for the cult that rises with the capability to cause global homicide or genocide.

Beyond that, most discussions on science boards should be expected to have atheistic opinions attached since most who are well-educated and of scientific mindset reject religious dogma.
 
being well-educated in science has absolutely nothing to do with religion. You can fully support science and know almost everything about it and still be a theist... maybe if you stopped being so close-minded you could see that instead of just attacked an entire , and rather large, group of people by calling them less-educated
 
Whether you care to admit it or accept it, most scientists are agnostic and atheist. Call it an attack if you wish (it isn't), but it *is* a fact.
 
Your point?

You do not have to be athiest to be well-educated in science... you might aswell say you must be a kid to be well-educated in harry potter...
 
SkinWalker said:
Whether you care to admit it or accept it, most scientists are agnostic and atheist. Call it an attack if you wish (it isn't), but it *is* a fact.
true but around 45% of scientists beleive in a god who has no direct influence in the universe today ( according to an article i found on google, but then again its google)
 
My point was clear. Most scientists and the science-minded are agnostic and atheist. Therefore, it shouldn't be surprising to see that the majority of threads in the Religion subforum of a science board are about atheism.

Indeed, the point was so clear its interesting that you question it so.
 
i was simply trying to more fully explore the feild of religion as a collection of thoughts for as science is natural philosophy and religion is theocratic philosophy and it seems as though such a disscussion cannot be had by belivers because of the seeming 4 to 1 ballpark of atheists to belivers of any kind i hoped to rope in some intellegent conversation about some unifying force in the universe as aposed to a handfull of comments made by belligerent rebels against their parents religion
 
SkinWalker said:
Beyond that, most discussions on science boards should be expected to have atheistic opinions attached since most who are well-educated and of scientific mindset reject religious dogma.

Im talking about THAT , not athiests speaking of science on this forum.
 
Little_Birdie said:
it seems as though all the threads in the religion section are about atheistists are there any belivers of any religion that would like to compare and debate with other belivers on sci forums

Yes this forum is mostly an athiest forum so most discussions happen between athiests and believers. But discussions do occur between people who have differing beliefs in God.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days
 
Little_Birdie said:
i was simply trying to more fully explore the feild of religion as a collection of thoughts for as science is natural philosophy and religion is theocratic philosophy and it seems as though such a disscussion cannot be had by belivers because of the seeming 4 to 1 ballpark of atheists to belivers of any kind i hoped to rope in some intellegent conversation about some unifying force in the universe as aposed to a handfull of comments made by belligerent rebels against their parents religion

There is no compulsion to answer all posts. If one does not want to reply to a post then one is free not to. If someone is baiting you with one line statements then just ignore them.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days
 
Provita said:
Im talking about THAT , not athiests speaking of science on this forum.

Disbelief in God and immortality among NAS biological scientists was 65.2% and 69.0%, respectively, and among NAS physical scientists it was 79.0% and 76.3%. Most of the rest were agnostics on both issues, with few believers.
Nature 394, 313 (23 July 1998)

Most who are well-educated and of scientific mindset reject religious dogma.
 
Little_Birdie said:
so adstar what is our take on religion i'd take it you are christian but what kind there are quite a few

I suppose you would call me a Bible believing Christian. I do not belong to a denomination. I am just a follower of the Messiah Jesus. Part of the Body of Christ.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days
 
Adstar said:
I suppose you would call me a Bible believing Christian. I do not belong to a denomination. I am just a follower of the Messiah Jesus. Part of the Body of Christ.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days


you belive in jesues. yay!! do you belive he is true god and true man? what are the particulars of your faith? what mysteries do you contemplate?
 
Little_Birdie said:
you belive in jesues. yay!! do you belive he is true god and true man? what are the particulars of your faith? what mysteries do you contemplate?

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M*W: You're asking Noah about the flood, you idiot. Jesus didn't exist! He's only a fig newton of your imagination. Grow the fuck up!
 
Mindless belief is irrational, childish and dangerous. Christanity is just another of the less benign cults that have existed throughout history. How many murdered innocents can christainity (or any major religion) tally in it's name?

It's disgusting.
 
All right
Unfortunately most of the ardent atheists on these forums are fonder of angry rants than debate and discussion. Also the normal sciences (Geology, Biology …) and the reverse sciences (Theology, Philosophy) are not excusive but just looking at different ends of the same equation. The N.S.s looks from cause to effect, whereas the R.S.s looks from effect to cause. One day we will meet in the middle but till then we will have to respect each other lest posterity will place us in the same book as those that argued that the world is flat.
 
urielswing said:
All right
Unfortunately most of the ardent atheists on these forums are fonder of angry rants than debate and discussion. Also the normal sciences (Geology, Biology …) and the reverse sciences (Theology, Philosophy) are not excusive but just looking at different ends of the same equation. The N.S.s looks from cause to effect, whereas the R.S.s looks from effect to cause. One day we will meet in the middle but till then we will have to respect each other lest posterity will place us in the same book as those that argued that the world is flat.

philosophy and theology are not sciences. they do not employ the scientific method, nor do they collect, observe, or contemplate empirical evidence. out of curiosity, what effect is it that theology attempts to find a cause for, and how do you think it is that theologists go about looking for it in a way that even remotely resembles a scientific approach?
 
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