News from the Colonies - America's War in Iraq

[Baron Max]

Now dont say in ww2 we wanted regime change but that was different as it was forced on us by the enemy.. Iraq did not attack us in 2003

No, Zak, the was with Japan was forced on us, the war in Europe was undertaken to rid the world of Hitler. No, Zak, it was not different militarily, it was different, however, due to the lily-livered liberal politicians and the weak-willed American people.

If World War II were to have been fought under the same conditions, we'd have been forced by the liberals to have let Hitler and the Nazis remain in power!

Baron Max

 

[Vega]

You know the main reason we invaded iraq,. They didn't have a mcdonalds!
Soon there will be many.... infidel burgers!!!..there is no escape..mwhahahaha!

 

[Zakariya04]

No, Zak, the was with Japan was forced on us, the war in Europe was undertaken to rid the world of Hitler. No, Zak, it was not different militarily, it was different, however, due to the lily-livered liberal politicians and the weak-willed American people.


Baron Max

Hi abron thank you for your post

thats what bi said baron it was forced on us.. so it wewas different

iraq 2003 was not forced on us...

 

[Zakariya04]

Hi baron
i said ww2 was different as it was forced on us by ouir enemies

 

[Nickelodeon]

You know the main reason we invaded iraq,. They didn't have a mcdonalds!
Soon there will be many.... infidel burgers!!!..there is no escape..mwhahahaha!

Yes, the real aim was to spread obesity into the ME.

 

[Baron Max]

You can't read, can you, Zak?? Read my post again .....

I ain't talkin' to you no-fuckin'-more ....you're just like most of the fanatical Muslim terrorists you claim not to support. Fuck you ...and I hope you die a horrible, painful death .....very fuckin' soon!

Baron Max

 

[S.A.M.]

You can't read, can you, Zak?? Read my post again .....

I ain't talkin' to you no-fuckin'-more ....you're just like most of the fanatical Muslim terrorists you claim not to support. Fuck you ...and I hope you die a horrible, painful death .....very fuckin' soon!

Baron Max

Do you really mean that?

 

[S.A.M.]

Yes, the real aim was to spread obesity into the ME.

No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still baloney.

 

[Baron Max]

Do you really mean that?

During my frustration and anger ....yes! Do I still mean it? Hmm, give me some more time to think about that, okay?

Baron Max

 

[spuriousmonkey]

You can't read, can you, Zak?? Read my post again .....

I ain't talkin' to you no-fuckin'-more ....you're just like most of the fanatical Muslim terrorists you claim not to support. Fuck you ...and I hope you die a horrible, painful death .....very fuckin' soon!

Baron Max

I'm sure that is how the terrorist think about americans.

 

[Kunax]

I'm sure that is how the terrorist think about americans.

American hater

 

[Zakariya04]

You can't read, can you, Zak?? Read my post again .....

I ain't talkin' to you no-fuckin'-more ....

Baron Max

Phew a double negative so you are still talking to me

thats ok then for aminute i thought you were not going to talk to me anymore

nice one baron...

 

[Vega]

Wow!!! After 30 pages there is finally bloodshed!!

 

[terryoh]

Yep, if Bob Woodward said it, then it must be true! He wouldn't lie or make up things just to sell more copies of his book ...no, of course not.

Seemingly, in this day and time, anyone can say anything that they want without reprecussion ...and worse, some people will believe it! We've become a people who've lost any sense of personal honor, and lies spew forth without thought or consideration of the consequences. We've become a people who just don't give a fuck about anything but ourselves and our own selfish interests.

Baron Max

The same can be said about the Government, right? Unless you feel that this current administration should be free from criticism.

 

[spuriousmonkey]

All his well in the colonies:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6061488.stm
Nine US soldiers killed in Iraq

The deaths come as US-led forces in Iraq experience a surge in casualties in insurgency attacks; more than 60 US troops have been killed this month.

The BBC's Andrew North in Baghdad says that, with an average of three Americans dying every day, this is one of the highest casualty rates sustained by US troops since January 2005.

Everything is under control.

Interior Ministry officials played down the significance of the changes in public, but privately said they were the result of US and Sunni pressure.

The new Iraq regime is not a puppet of the US. Or is it?

 

[Kunax]

Dk soruces say 10 death and to top it of yesterday or was it monday marked the day when the koalision hit 3000 deaths mark

 

[vincent]

All his well in the colonies:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6061488.stm
Nine US soldiers killed in Iraq



Everything is under control.



The new Iraq regime is not a puppet of the US. Or is it?

The government is made up of shia's so they are a puppet of iran, the americans would like the sunnis in charge, so i dont know how you make that assumption, once again you seem to show a lack of knowledge of the situation.

 

[terryoh]

The government is made up of shia's so they are a puppet of iran, the americans would like the sunnis in charge, so i dont know how you make that assumption, once again you seem to show a lack of knowledge of the situation.

WHAT? The Coalition ousted the Sunnis from power. The Ba'ath Party, under Saddam Hussein, represented the interests of the minority Sunnis. The Coalition thought that a moderate, majority Shiite government would do wonders for Iraq.

Unfortunately, they didn't calculate the strength of the Sunni insurgency and the Iranians ties to the Shiites.

 

[spuriousmonkey]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6074182.stm

Alberto Fernandez told al-Jazeera TV the US was now willing to talk to any insurgent group apart from al-Qaeda in Iraq, to reduce sectarian bloodshed.

His remarks came after President George W Bush discussed changing tactics with top military commanders.

Well, that wasn't really a secret.

But White House spokeswoman Nicole Guillemard denied the report. "The story is not accurate, but we are constantly developing new tactics to achieve our goal," she said.

Meanwhile, British Foreign Office Minister Kim Howells, in an interview with the BBC, has suggested that the Iraqi security forces could take over much of the work of US-led forces within a year.

yeah right!? The figthing is getting worse and suddenly the US can hand down the increasing problem within a year???

"Our goal in Iraq is clear and unchanging," he said. "Our goal is victory. What is changing are the tactics we use to achieve that goal."

What kind of a moron do you have to be to believe in a victory by a foreign invasion force over a country in civil war?

 

[spuriousmonkey]

From a Dutch newspaper based on a television broadcast this week on Dutch TV, since this will never appear in US media:
(translated by spuriousmonkey with no attention to detail)
Taliban are more and more taking over afghan province
The Taliban have increased their sphere of influence in the southern afghan province of Oeroezgan, where the Dutch military contingent is stationed. At the same time the understanding of the local population for the presence of foreign soldiers has decreased, because a fair amount of afghan citizens have been the victim in bombing campaigns according to the dutch journalist Arnold Karskens who is the only Dutch reporter that didn’t work under the protection and influence of the dutch military in Afghanistan.

The rebuilding, the original mission of the Dutch, hasn’t really occurred yet. The dutch soldiers are mainly busy with their own safety. He bases his conclusions on interviews with local people, local government and afghan police.

The afghan police have little and low quality weapons and are basically helpless against extremists muslim fighters. These gather in several locations and no outsiders including foreign military dares to venture there, the local people report.

The road between Kandahar and the provincial capital of Tarin Kowt was this summer much more dangerous than at the beginning of the year. The Dutch journalist undertook this route with some 200 Afghans that protected the convoy. The reporter estimates that about 80 percent of the province is in Taliban control. The civilians have little hope that the dutch military can do anything in this situation, since they only care about their own safery.

A spokesperson of the ministery of defense doesn’t recognize the situation as conveyed by the Dutch reporter: ‘Of course his opinion matters but his opinion doesn’t justify the work that 1400 dutchmen are doing there’ Part of the work is to train and support the Afghan police so that they can solve their own problems.

The spokesperson also pointed out that the Dutch only took command of this province on the first of august. Most of the actions the people referred to were done by the American forces stationed there in Operation Enduring Freedom. The dutch journalist came back on september 22nd and according to the spokesperson 1.5 months is rather a short time to notice anything from a ‘rebuilding’ mission. In the mean time 170 projects have started in the two areas where the two dutch bases are.