News from the Colonies - America's War in Iraq

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Sci-Phenomena (Post 612): "...we western minded people have quite a different way of thinking".

Jeezus, will you please lay the White Man's Burden down, already. We have different circumstances in the "West", but standard-issue Human minds, hopes, and dreams.

"The whole land in the Middle East is filled with conflict and has been for a long time"

Europe's been far more violent throughout history. Even in the more distant and horrific eras of Mideast history... guess where the megadeath was imported from? Guess who drew these fucked-up borders? Guess who blurted out the Balfour Declaration?

Residents of the Mideast are no more savage than the disoriented, armed, and dangerous American teenagers now terrorizing the residents of Baghdad- The latest installment of disastrous Western meddlers.
 
Many Americans and even some former military such as myself are equally appalled at the events in Iraq and Afghanistan. This administration as the same disregard for human rights at home.
 
Many Americans and even some former military such as myself are equally appalled at the events in Iraq and Afghanistan. This administration as the same disregard for human rights at home.

I think people who actually fight in a war (ie the soldiers) are more aware of what it entails than those who sit at home and send others to fight for them.

This is clear from the rejection of the war tsar role, as well as the declaration of quitting in case of an attack on Iran.
 
The great American logic: If you build a wall big enough around a problem, you won't see it and thus it will disappear.

Americans didn't understand Iraqis when they invaded Iraq, and they seem not to be a cm smarter now.
 
Hmmm...interesting.

Al-Maliki: No wall in Baghdad community

Do we let the democratically-elected President of Iraq decide what goes on in his country or should the US military/government do what it wants and continue on with the building, irregardless of the DEMOCRATICALLLY-ELECTED IRAQI GOVERNMENT?
 
Hmmm...interesting. "Al-Maliki: No wall in Baghdad community" Do we let the democratically-elected President of Iraq decide what goes on in his country or ...?

He agree with the wall earlier ....then apparently changed his mind. Or worse, someone "changed" his mind through coercion or threat???

And please don't forget .....Iraqis are killing Iraqis. The US is trying to stop that, yet y'all seem to be complaining about that. Do you want Iraqis to continue killing Iraqis??

Baron Max
 
He agree with the wall earlier ....then apparently changed his mind. Or worse, someone "changed" his mind through coercion or threat???

And please don't forget .....Iraqis are killing Iraqis. The US is trying to stop that, yet y'all seem to be complaining about that. Do you want Iraqis to continue killing Iraqis??

Baron Max

Maybe you shouldn't have invaded in the first place.
 
spuriousmonkey

Maybe you shouldn't have invaded in the first place.

That doesn't answer the Barons question, we went to Iraq and we removed Saddam, it was done, so now, as the Baron has ask:

Iraqis are killing Iraqis. The US is trying to stop that, yet y'all seem to be complaining about that. Do you want Iraqis to continue killing Iraqis??
 
Maybe you shouldn't have invaded in the first place.

But regrets about past actions don't solve any of the present problems, does it. One can condemn the actions of the past from now 'til the cows come home, but it does no good in solving the present.

Baron Max
 
He agree with the wall earlier ....then apparently changed his mind. Or worse, someone "changed" his mind through coercion or threat???

And please don't forget .....Iraqis are killing Iraqis. The US is trying to stop that, yet y'all seem to be complaining about that. Do you want Iraqis to continue killing Iraqis??

Baron Max

Segregation isn't the way to stop the violence. At least before the invasion, although there was deep mistrust between Sunnis and Shiites, they weren't openly battling it out and ethnically cleansing each other.
 
Segregation isn't the way to stop the violence.

Well, it's certainly one way! If no Sunni ever came in contact with a Shiite, then he could kill him, could he? See? Segregation works quite well.

At least before the invasion, although there was deep mistrust between Sunnis and Shiites, they weren't openly battling it out and ethnically cleansing each other.

Oh, sure ...that's because Sadman's government oppressed them both to the point of not being able to do anything. And if they did, they were tortured and killed. Is that what you'd like to see there again???

Baron Max
 
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