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Also the problem of getting rid of enough natives for Jews to build their illegal "Jewish" settlements, eh?
 
CheskiChips said:
If by "Sovereign" you mean..."Give up half of your capital to another country" and "Expel people from your long held lands" then you're right. Because this is precisely what Obama's foreign advisor has been working on for some times...
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be "expel people from long held lands" you do mean expel people whose have been living on a piece of land for centuries even through you only have gained it in a historical sence a short period of time ago than yes you would
 
CheskiChips said:
What do you mean occupied? If "occupied" means people shouldn't be able to live wherever they want, then everyone should return to their genetic lands? How far back do you go?

Native Americans should all get back America? We should give Ghengis/Kublai Khan all of their land? We should give back Babylonians Iran? Or should we give back English the part of India it used to own?

How far back?

Should we give ALL the land back to the animals and we should all live in a small tribe next to Ararat? Or Africa?

Here in America we welcome people into the land if they come legally EVEN if we don't all like them.

Wait...I think you mean European colonialists should just give back everything they took! So China shouldn't again split up into waring tribes? And Dome of the Rock should be shipped back to Mecca? Or is it merely a racist thing...white people should all go home? Who's the real racist here?
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so only the jews get to use it was are land thousand of years ago arguement.
 
Ah, so the "Jewish right of "return"" and the illegal settlements and the creation of a Jewish state of "Israel" is the spoils of war?

The Jews declared war on Palestinians ? Like Britain did on its colonies? Like Nazis did on Jews? Like South Africa did on blacks?
 
CheskiChips said:
Actually that's not the argument I use. My argument is WE WON THE WAR, WE WON THE SPOILS. If you want to keep fighting the war prepare to be trampled.
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The arguement that you used is based on the right of the israelis to gain a country on land they haven't had for 200 years either that or you support naked conquest of land.

Secondly the people you took the land from didn't want war, unlike the jews.
 
S.A.M. said:
Ah, so the "Jewish right of "return"" and the illegal settlements and the creation of a Jewish state of "Israel" is the spoils of war?

The Jews declared war on Palestinians ? Like Britain did on its colonies? Like Nazis did on Jews? Like South Africa did on blacks?
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Make this comparison.
Jews declared war on the Arabs like Japan declared war on China.
Wanted some of the land.
 
pjdude1219 said:
The arguement that you used is based on the right of the israelis to gain a country on land they haven't had for 200 years either that or you support naked conquest of land.

Secondly the people you took the land from didn't want war, unlike the jews.
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No, any people can declare on ANY people. That's how the world works.
 
What Arabs? You mean Palestinians? They've been there forever. And you know my views on occupation. You can ask the Chinese what they think of Japan :)
 
S.A.M. said:
What Arabs? You mean Palestinians? They've been there forever. And you know my views on occupation. You can ask the Chinese what they think of Japan :)
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I know your views, I understand your views, I aknowledge your views.

BOUNDARY LAWS ARE THE LAWS OF PEOPLE, NOT THE EARTH ITS SELF.

If a people who are more powerful want your land, you better defend yourself OR get the fudg out!

Jews said "We want this, we're taking it" and the Arabs fought back...and LOST! Get over it!
 
Yeah, we heard that from the British for 200 years. Fortunately, no one believed it.
 
S.A.M. said:
Yeah, we heard that from the British for 200 years. Fortunately, no one believed it.
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If the British still owned America...I would fight them.

But we WON the war, so we are a nation.

The Spanish wanted American land...we fought and we WON!

Indians wanted Britain out, they FOUGHT and WON!

Arabs wanted Israel OUT, they fought and they LOST!
 
CheskiChips said:
I know your views, I understand your views, I aknowledge your views.

BOUNDARY LAWS ARE THE LAWS OF PEOPLE, NOT THE EARTH ITS SELF.

If a people who are more powerful want your land, you better defend yourself OR get the fudg out!

Jews said "We want this, we're taking it" and the Arabs fought back...and LOST! Get over it!
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What kind of nut job are you. Your showing nothing less than support ands justification for naked conquests.
I think you need to be treated like a rabid dog.
 
It only works if the other people accept it. The native Americans accpeted it, the Indians did not. They merely produced enough people to keep the demographics on their side and refused to accept the rights of any foreigners on their soil.
 
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