News clips from 9-11-2001 **You can't debunk this**

Can everyone please listen to this call with an open mind. Don't your let personal hate for me clould your judgement.

Does this sound like mass anarchy on the plane? This does not fit with the official story.

http://www.mishalov.com/911_ong.mp3

Flight 11 attendent Betty Ong
 
Moderator note: Several infractions have been handed out following Ganymede's complaints (see above).

Please try to conduct the discussion in a civilised manner.

Thankyou.
 
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O very well. Gany's sensitive (*"Checkmate!"*) feelings have been hurt (*"You failed emergent calculus!"*. I had no idea of the brevity of his feelings.
 
Where's your proof. What are you basing your theorys on? Your mouth doesn't suffice. Sorry man.

Where's your proof? (Or is that "Troof"? Hm.) You want me to buy this story, so prove your statements. Let's see some numbers. Let's have a big helping of "Troof".

Wow, they must really want to get rid of me. After being verbally assualted for 2 straight days, the moment I respond I get an infraction. A list of the insults in this thread. According to this list. GeoffP should be fucking banned.

Ah ah, now. Calls for banning are grounds for banning. Let's be fair. BTW: aren't you the one that claimed to have inseminated someone's mother and told others to "STFU"? And the "failed" comments?
 
I call him a nut job, he calls me a facist.....which is more hurtful apparently nut job because i am infracted..ohh well
 
I commend you Ganeymede, attempting to awaken those who do not want to be awakened is a thankless job:)
However your not alone...obviously you know that.
There are Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials, Engineers and Architects, Pilots and Aviation Professionals, Professors, Survivors and Family Members, and even Entertainment and Media Professionals, all who want an independent investigation into the events of 9/11.

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

This is not going to go away.
 
moe said:
There are Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials, Engineers and Architects, Pilots and Aviation Professionals, Professors, Survivors and Family Members, and even Entertainment and Media Professionals, all who want an independent investigation into the events of 9/11.
I want one, too. There's a lot about the whole scene that bears closer scrutiny than it got.

And I'm convinced one of the most important factors keeping me and those who feel as I do from getting our inquiry, is the image that BS like this has hung on anyone who wants one.

People who can't make up their minds whether the government set off bombs in the basements of all three buildings or rigged incredibly rugged and well-coordinated millesecond-timed demolition charges on forty floors of both towers and building 7 prior to crashing jumbo jets into them for some reason,


people who think the US government set up an operation that makes Mission Impossible stunts look like high school football plays, ran it flawlessly in split second timing without rehearsal or trial, and kept several hundred people whose friends had been killed from talking about it afterwards, in full view of dozens of TV cameras and thousands of witnesses

people who are willing to accept two or three mutually exclusive explanations for various aspects of one incident

have torpedoed any possibility of a genuine inquiry into, say, the obvious and disturbing Saudi connections between the US government and the financiers of 9/11, the failure to uncover the US support team for the hijackers, the flying skills and false identities involved, the ineffectual response to what could very well have been a far more serious enemy attack (the Russians sounded a bit wistful in their commentary, according to observers), and so forth.
 
Haha, right on Geoff...love ya man.
You remind me of this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm1u6qZyQ4w

Anyways...keep fighting the good fight.

LOL - WTC7 WTC7! Hehe.

I'd be more concerned about the "controlled demolition" comparison if the other buildings had come down from the bottom, instead of cracking at the aircraft impact point. Did the evil Lizardoids plant bombs there. Can you perhaps give any reason for why WTC7 would have been blown? Why were there no explosions at the base?
 
Let's also investigate wiki:

"In May 2002, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) issued a report on the collapse based on a preliminary investigation conducted jointly with the Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers under leadership of Dr. W. Gene Corley, P.E. FEMA made preliminary findings that the collapse was not primarily caused by actual impact damage from the collapse of 1 WTC and 2 WTC but by fires on multiple stories ignited by debris from the other two towers that continued unabated due to lack of water for sprinklers or manual firefighting. Structural elements were exposed to high temperatures for a sufficient period of time to reduce their strength to the point of collapse.[6]"

Gilsanz, Ramon, Edward M. DePaola, Christopher Marrion, and Harold "Bud" Nelson (May 2002). "WTC7 (Chapter 5), pdf", World Trade Center Building Performance Study. FEMA.

It's collapse time? 5:20 PM, after burning all bloody day, its fireproofing being good for 3 hours maximum. I don't know if, on examining the multitude of tapes of WTC7, you struck on the gigantic column of smoke coming out of the building. Generally where there's smoke, there's fire. Maybe the 24,000 gallons of diesel for the generators had something to do with it, or the 12 transformers on the fifth floor, which is where the collapse apparently was, had something to do with the fire and the bang. I'm given to understand that transformers make quite a bang when they go up.

To use your colleague's vocabulary:

Checkmate!
 
LOL - WTC7 WTC7! Hehe.

I'd be more concerned about the "controlled demolition" comparison if the other buildings had come down from the bottom, instead of cracking at the aircraft impact point. Did the evil Lizardoids plant bombs there. Can you perhaps give any reason for why WTC7 would have been blown? Why were there no explosions at the base?

Lizardoids?!...wtf are you talking about?
Sorry bro, your a little too crazy or jaded for me.:)
But keep on keeping on brother!
 
Well then, I guess that wraps up the WTC7 investigation. No conspiracy, no demolition. Almost a hundred thousand litres of diesel fuel, massive electricity transformers and a column of smoke that was probably visible from space sort of sorts out the "why" in "Why did WTC7 fall down?"

Thankyou for playing. I've been your host, Geoff P. Good night.
 
Well then, I guess that wraps up the WTC7 investigation. No conspiracy, no demolition. Almost a hundred thousand litres of diesel fuel, massive electricity transformers and a column of smoke that was probably visible from space sort of sorts out the "why" in "Why did WTC7 fall down?"

Thankyou for playing. I've been your host, Geoff P. Good night.

Here's what seperates me from you.

1) I can provide real life examples that prove fires don't bring down buildings.

2)You on the other hand, can only provide punditry from non independently verifiable sources. The Government doesn't qualify as a nuetral source. Their modus operandi is to provide a conclusion of the facts that best suits them. They have no interest in the truth(The Pat Tilman intentional lies are a good example). That's why WTC7 was left out of 911 commision report. So i'm going to provide you with real life examples to support my theory that fires can't bring down buildings. While you on the other hand, can not.


Here's proof, that fires don't bring down buildings. Until you can show me another example outside of the WTC (That's my challenge to you, if you're man enough to take it) Then I win by default, because I have more evidence to support my theory then you do.

Here's what a real fire looks like

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