ugh....like i said just because its never happened before doent mean it never will happen..posting the same pictures over and over again doesnt help either, link me a real professional source that is not linked to a conspiracy site that has a professional structural engineer telling us this couldnt have happened..please
Your right, people with structural and architectural experience should be listed.
Sorry bro, here you go
Structural engineering is usually considered a specialty discipline within civil engineering, but it can also be studied in its own right. In the US, most practising structural engineers are currently licensed as civil engineers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_engineer
Also, not to take the position of Architects lightly...
"An architect is a person who is involved in the planning, designing and oversight of a building's construction. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architect
I understand your current skepticism so if you are really only interested in those who have the label structural rather than the more general term civil engineer no problem...glad to help
Jörg Schneider, Dr hc – Professor Emeritus, Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Former President, Joint Committee on Structural Safety, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Elected member of the Swiss Academy of Engineering Sciences. Former Vice President and honorary lifetime member of the International Association for Bridge and Structural Engineering.
" In my opinion the building WTC 7, with the few available video recordings is evidence that the building WTC 7 was with great probability demolished."
Mario Fontana, Dr Sc CE – Professor of Structural Analysis and Construction, Institute of Structural Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Former Director of the Steel Construction Division, Geilinger AG. Author of more than 40 papers on structural engineering.
Petitioning for:
"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7."
http://www.ae911truth.org/joinus.php
Charles N. Pegelow, BS CE – Licensed Civil Engineer (Structural), State of California. Over 25 years experience in structural design and analysis and project management of major construction projects, including large steel structures.
"The FEMA / Kean Commission Report was a flawed investigation. ...
In addition to the firemen calling the Commission a cover up, there are the victim's family organizations that are saying the same thing.
The commission did gather many experts but did not provide them with the full information they needed. FEMA hampered and distorted the investigation of the professionals they hired.
In conclusion, FEMA / Kean Commission Report was a flawed investigation and it needs to be reopened.
An open, independent of the Federal Government, public inquiry into the attacks should be set up under an independent judicial body with power to subpoena evidence."
Doyle Winterton, B.ES (Engineering Science) – Retired Structural Engineer.
Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement: "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."
Haluk Akol – Architect & Structural Engineer
Lafayette, CA
Dennis J. Kollar, PE – Structural Engineer. Licensed Professional Engineer, State of Wisconsin
Rich Reed, BS Structural Engineering
San Diego, CA
and many more, (I'll continue to post them if you like)all petitioning for an independant investigation.
Please continue to educate yourself to new emerging evidence.
Theres a part in this short clip I know you will enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ9Bo...elated&search=
Joseph M. Phelps, MS CE, PE (ret) – Structural Dynamicist, Charter Member, Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE). Life member, ASCE. Former member of the Marine Technology Society, the American Society for Oceanography, and the Society of Photo-optical Instrumentation Engineers. Founder of Phelps/ABC, an engineering and industrial marketing firm.
"Research proves the current administration has been dishonest about what happened in New York and Washington, D.C. The World Trade Center was almost certainly brought down by controlled demolitions and that the available relevant evidence casts grave doubt on the government's official story about the attack on the Pentagon."
H. Theodore Elden, Jr., B.Arch – Practicing registered architect in West Virginia for over 25 years. Now retired. Graduate of Carnegie Mellon University. Member, American Institute of Architects, West Virginia Chapter. Appointed Member of West Virginia State Board of Architects. Former Member, National Council of Architectural Registration Boards (NCARB), and Member, National Committee, Intern Development Program for Architects (IDP).
"Have we, as building professionals, been hoodwinked? Who should better understand the collapse of the World Trade Towers than those in our profession, possibly with the consultation of demolition experts?
As I and millions have reviewed the events of that day, it seems much of the cover story is not true and impossible. As the nation is confused on the reality of that day, have we been making bad decisions ever since?
My web site collects salient information that isolates the demise of the World Trade Towers – linking many experienced, dedicated and articulate technical analysis that show clearly that the World Trade Towers were destroyed by internal explosives and not "fires from the airlines".
After hundreds of hours of research, and thousands of dollars purchasing materials and information, this letter outlines my most salient, articulate examples of things that architects should investigate. If I err slightly in any single item, that does not discount this letter. On the contrary, even if only part of these accusations are true, they should be investigated."
http://www.abodia.com/911/Articles/A...ter_Nov_06.htm
Frank A. DeMartini – WTC victim. Architect and WTC Construction Manager, North Tower, 88th floor. Demartini first worked at the World Trade Center when Leslie E. Robertson Associates hired him to assess damage from the terrorist truck bombing in 1993.
"The [Twin Tower] building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door. This intense grid * and the jet-plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting."
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+martini&hl=en
Danny Jowenko– Proprietor, Demolitons Expert, Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie B.V., a European demolition and construction company, with offices in the Netherlands. Founded 1980, Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie is certified and holds permits to comply with the Dutch Explosives for Civil Use Act and the German Explosives Act. Jowenko's explosives engineers also hold the German Certificate of Qualifications and the European Certificate for Shotfiring issued by The European Federation of Explosive Engineers.
(discussion with demoliton expert Danny Jowenko)
Jeff Hill: I was just wondering real quickly, I know you had commented on World Trade Center Building 7 before.
Danny Jowenko: Yes, that's right.
Jeff Hill: And I've come to my conclusions, too, that it couldn't have came down by fire.
Danny Jowenko: No, it -- absolutely not.
Jeff Hill: Are you still sticking by your comments where you say it must have been a controlled demolition?
Danny Jowenko: Absolutely.
Jeff Hill: Yes? So, you as being a controlled demolitions expert, you've looked at the building, you've looked at the video and you've determined with your expertise that --
Danny Jowenko: I looked at the drawings, the construction and it couldn't be done by fire. So, no, absolutely not.
Jeff Hill: OK, 'cause I was reading on the Internet, people were asking about you and they said, I wonder -- I heard something that Danny Jowenko retracted his statement of what he said earlier about World Trade Center 7 now saying that it came down by fire. I said, "There's no way that's true."
Danny Jowenko: No, no, no, absolutely not.
Jeff Hill: 'Cause if anybody was -- Like when I called Controlled Demolition here in North America, they tell me that , "Oh, it's possible it came down from fire" and this and that and stuff like that --.
Danny Jowenko: When the FEMA makes a report that it came down by fire, and you have to earn your money in the States as a controlled demolition company and you say, "No, it was a controlled demolition", you're gone. You know?
Jeff Hill: Yeah, exactly, you'll be in a lot of trouble if you say that, right?
Danny Jowenko: Of course, of course. That's the end of your -- the end of the story.
Jeff Hill: Yeah, 'cause I was calling demolitions companies just to ask them if they used the term, "Pull it" in demolition terms and even Controlled Demolitions, Incorporated said they did. But the other people wouldn't -- didn't want to talk to me about Building 7 really because obviously 'cause they knew what happened and they didn't want to say it.
Danny Jowenko: Exactly .
http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/danny_jowenko_022207.mp3
William Rice, PE – Registered Professional Civil Engineer who worked on structural steel and concrete buildings in Boston, New York, and Philadelphia. Former Professor at Vermont Technical College where he taught engineering materials, structures lab, and other building related courses.
""Having worked on structural steel buildings as a civil engineer in the era when the Twin Towers were designed and constructed, I found some disturbing discrepancies and omissions concerning their collapse on 9/11. ...
The interesting fact is that each of these 110-story Twin Towers fell upon itself in about ten seconds at nearly free-fall speed. This violates Newton’s Law of Conservation of Momentum that would require that as the stationary inertia of each floor is overcome by being hit, the mass (weight) increases and the free-fall speed decreases.
Even if Newton’s Law is ignored, the prevailing theory would have us believe that each of the Twin Towers inexplicably collapsed upon itself crushing all 287 massive columns on each floor while maintaining a free-fall speed as if the 100,000, or more, tons of supporting structural-steel framework underneath didn't exist.
Controlled demolition is so politically unthinkable that the media not only demeans the messenger but also ridicules and "debunks" the message rather than provide investigative reporting. Curiously, it took 441 days for the president’s 9/11 Commission to start an "investigation" into a tragedy where more than 2,500 WTC lives were taken. The Commission’s investigation also didn't include the possibility of controlled-demolition, nor did it include an investigation into the "unusual and unprecedented" manner in which WTC Building #7 collapsed"
Dennis Holloway, B.Arch., M.Arch. (Urban Design) – Former Associate Professor of Environmental Design at the University of Colorado. Former Associate Professor of Architecture, University of Minnesota School of Architecture and Landscape Architecture. Member, National Council of Architectural Registration Boards (NCARB). Registered Architect in Colorado, New Mexico, and Wyoming. Former Licensed/Registered Architect in Michigan and Minnesota. Recipient of the Environmental Quality Award in Science and Technology from the United States Environmental Protection Agency.
"It was the discovery of molten steel in the Tub that made me realize there was something really wrong about the MSM coverage of the Towers. The discovery of intergranular melting has so far not been explained, officially. Building 7 collapse looks like a demolition to me, and if nothing else happens, this should be intensively re-investigated by an independent team of architects and engineers."
There's hundreds more with outstanding credentials if you would like me to list them.
Here's a direct link to over 200 Structural, Architectural and Demolition experts demanding a new and truly independent investigation into the events of 9/11 if your interested.
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html
@ the 49:30 mark, an engineer who designed many fire proof steel structures comments...however I would reckomend giving this entire video attention.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...15681105&hl=en
However, I am well aware that most people in your position of stance take this more of a challenge, rather than an opportunity for sharing, so the possibility that you will take any of what I have to share with you without egotistcal filters is slim and none...just the way it is.
Again, it would be impossible to convince the likes of people like Geoff because of their habitual deffensive state they have developed...they can not be wrong as their is to much self involvement of value involved in them being right.
If you have made it this far Geoff, I've been meaning to ask someone like yourself...do you deal in absolutes, or are you always open to new information?
Do you claim that what you believe happened is an absolute certainty, or is it just a higher probability that it is the way you have percieved these events to have unfolded?
Thanks
