News clips from 9-11-2001 **You can't debunk this**

shichimenshyo said:
ohh yes because we all know that polls are soo accurate...:D You fail at being even a semi believable nut job.
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Here's the point neo-fascist. I have evidence to back up my claims. You have nothing but your un informed opinions. Since you failed to debunk the poll with anything factual other then your blustering rubish, you'll continue to lose the debate.

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Ganymede said:
Here's the point neo-fascist. I have evidence to back up my claims. You have nothing but your un informed opinions. Since you failed to debunk the poll with anything factual other then your blustering rubish, you'll continue to lose the debate.

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Your evidence is all hearsay, Just becuase someone says something into a camera doesnt make it true. I bet you dont believe there was ever a moon landing either.

The government might be hiding something about what they knew about 9/11 but they certainly didnt do it themselves.


http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/
 
The government might be hiding something about what they knew about 9/11 but they certainly didnt do it themselves.
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Oh they're not hiding something? Ok, can you tell me on what page of the 911 commision report that covers the WTC7? Thank you in advance. :deal:
 
Ganymede said:
Oh they're not hiding something? Ok, can you tell me on what page of the 911 commision report that covers the WTC7? Thank you in advance. :deal:
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Please explain to me in detail your problem with wt7 then I can address the argument fully, if you just keep rambling on saying WT7 I cant argue properly.
I know it will be hard to form a thoguht or argument that doesnt have something about the initial reporting in it but you can do it, I believe in you.


I bet youve seen aliens too!
 
shichimenshyo said:
Please explain to me in detail your problem with wt7 then I can address the argument fully, if you just keep rambling on saying WT7 I cant argue properly.
I know it will be hard to form a thoguht or argument that doesnt have something about the initial reporting in it but you can do it, I believe in you.


I bet youve seen aliens too!
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Ok, since your post failed to link the WTC7 Investigation. It's safe to assume that they're hiding something. Unless you have proof otherwise? This is why you're losing the debate. You failed to prove your claim. That the Government isn't hiding anything. And the lack of an official investigation on WTC7 proves that they're.

You lose, AGAIN

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Ganymede said:

What part of the video are you referring to. And youtube isn't the silver nail you're referring to. These are ACTUAL NEWS REPORTS. Please stick to the subject matter at hand. And I want you state at what part of the video you're disputing.
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Okay, look, it's the whole thing. People have already made the point about the information exchange under such duress. To look at it in terms of my prior answer:

• We all know what it looked like. And of course there are unanswered questions. And yes, some of these conspiracy theories will, in the end, serve some utility in the pursuit of truth.​

By the way, "a nother" is at 3:15.

In the first place: We all know what it looked like. Okay? Number two: Yes, there are unanswered questions about exactly what happened. And yes, these conspiracy theories might well be looking at some symptom or evidence of a "real" truth. But no, these YouTube documentaries aren't it. Your title, for instance: "You can't debunk this". And that whole checkmate business. It characterizes everything that's wrong about the "9/11 Truth" movement.

The penultimate segment, the bit from CNBC about a demolition: that's one of their studio presenters, right? Yeah, we know what it looked like. But the words of a CNBC presenter have better dramatic significance than anything else, except that the nature of this particular alleged documentary is such that it demands a different context, and that actually weakens the argument. The documentary you can't debunk: just think about what that asserts.

Let's imagine that someday the Truth theorists are validated inasmuch as someone from the government finally spills a plausible tale of how the U.S. managed to pull it off, or look the other way, or whatever our government's necessary sin was. I promise you: that explanation will debunk this and any other conspiracy-theory film about 9/11.

Take, for instance, Loose Change. I hadn't gotten around to it. And then I was going through some video files on another computer and ended up watching a BBC show called ... I think, Conspiracy Files. It was typical hyperdramatic pabulum, but the one thing I got from the episode was that Dylan Avery was such a prig I actually wanted to see his film.

So much of the conspiracy discussion is set with a contemptuous tone that speaks poorly of its ambition. Loose Change isn't about 9/11. It's about Dylan Avery. This "Ultimate Con" is about Lucus. In their own right, they do important work, but the point isn't about debunking. The truth of the matter will do the debunking. This level of criticism almost precludes itself entirely from actually being right by nature of its outlook. Truth is stranger than fiction. There's a reason for this. It's because fiction is obliged, at some point, to start making sense.

And that's how I know they're wrong.
 
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I would say wt7 suffered some pretty severe damage from the tower collapse.
 
Dense indeed, there is no point in arguing with you. Maybe one day you will be proven right but i highly doubt it
 
....and maybe one day they will let him out of his rubber room, and let him take off his "huggy jacket". :)
 
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shichimenshyo said:
Dense indeed, there is no point in arguing with you. Maybe one day you will be proven right but i highly doubt it
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Present facts, not your subjective opinions. That's the problem with you Government apologists. I'm not inclined to agree with you based on what you *feel* or *think*. I'm just debating the facts, something you lack.
 
Ganymede said:
Present facts, not your subjective opinions. That's the problem with you Government apologists. I'm not inclined to agree with you based on what you *feel* or *think*. I'm just debating the facts, something you lack.
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what facts? besides omg no other building has ever collapsed from fire, just because something has never happened before doesnt mean it never will happen. So far you have pointed to a bunch of youtube videos and the fact that something never had a full investigation done, Fema did invesigate it and said that it seemed unlikely that the building should collapse in this way but all current evidence shows thta it did. You dont have evidence just a belief in some bullshit that someone posts on you tube. way to be
 
Ganymede said:
And what are you basing this assumption on? Since it's never f*cking happend before?
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First, read and understand this:
http://www.debunking911.com/WTC7.htm

Now, does anyone remember a building in Oklahoma City? A federal building? Remember? And do you remember what a little fertilizer parked across the street did? Took down the entire face of the building?

Now here we have WTC7 with documented major damage to the south-facing base 10 or so stories and documented fires burning for hours.

So, to what kind of moron is it incredibly, blatantly obvious that it MUST have been controlled demolition? Only the same kind of moron that becomes so fanatically religiously invested in the idea, that no amount of evidence or reason can ever sway them.

Sound familiar, dipshit?
 
Ganymede said:
According to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks:

Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying

Telling the truth 16%

Hiding something 53%

Mostly lying 28%

Not sure 3%"
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Argumentum ad populum. You lose. :D

Also the "hiding something" makes no specification whatsoever as to what the US is "hiding". It certainly doesn't go as far as "False Flag Operation".
 
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