News clips from 9-11-2001 **You can't debunk this**

A group of victims' families, the Skyscraper Safety Campaign, had complained that most of the beams from the site were quickly shipped off and reprocessed into new steel before they could be tested. The institute's lead investigator, Shyam Sunder, cautioned the results were preliminary but said if those findings continue in further testing, that would rule out weak steel as a contributing factor in the collapse

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a..._type_in_wtc_met_standards_group_says?mode=PF

Doesn't the Truth burn? Feel the sting!
 
It isn't weak steel, you dunderhead. It's steel weakened by the heat. Like your brain.
 
Ganymede said:
The insurance company that certified the steel components said the steel could withstand temperatures of 2000 degree's. The N.I.S.T specualated that the maximum temparatures for the fires were 1800 degree's. Here's a quote from Kevin Ryan, and employee from the insurance company that certified the steel.



By Devlin Barrett, Associated Press, 8/28/2003

GAITHERSBURG, Md. -- Early tests on steel beams from the World Trade Center show they generally met or were stronger than design requirements, ruling them out as a contributing cause of the collapse of the towers, federal investigators said yesterday. Engineers with the National Institute of Standards and Technology have conducted preliminary tests on some of the 236 pieces of steel from the wreckage, said Frank Gayle, who is leading the board's review of the steel.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a..._type_in_wtc_met_standards_group_says?mode=PF
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Steel can be strong, but it can't avoid physics. It could resist the fire with it's fireproofing insulation, which was destroyed by the crashes.

Additionally, I think we can all agree that even un-fireproofed steel will not melt until reaching red-hot temperatures of nearly 3000F (2). Why Dr. Brown would imply that 2000F would melt the high-grade steel used in those buildings makes no sense at all.
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This is besides the point, a red herring, a non-sequitur. No one is suggesting the steel in the towers failed because it melted. It failed because it loses a significant percentage of it's strength at much lower temperatures consistent with the fire that occurred. This, combined with structural damage, led to the catastropic collapse.
 
Ganymede said:
A group of victims' families, the Skyscraper Safety Campaign, had complained that most of the beams from the site were quickly shipped off and reprocessed into new steel before they could be tested. The institute's lead investigator, Shyam Sunder, cautioned the results were preliminary but said if those findings continue in further testing, that would rule out weak steel as a contributing factor in the collapse

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a..._type_in_wtc_met_standards_group_says?mode=PF

Doesn't the Truth burn? Feel the sting!
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So, there is no chain of custody for the steel. I agree, it was a big mistake not to treat ground zero as a crime scene, but unfortunately, it ruins the credibility of most later types of testing.
 
spidergoat said:
So, there is no chain of custody for the steel. I agree, it was a big mistake not to treat ground zero as a crime scene, but unfortunately, it ruins the credibility of most later types of testing.
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Your right, it ruins the credibility of anyone "officially" involved.

And as far as Geoff maybe being right, that was a joke you silly young man.
 
Ganymede:
Your rebuttals are littered with insults.
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Here are some of his responses to those who ask questions or refute his redundant posts:

I broke the rubber, busted a nut up in your mother!

Now tell me, how does it feel to have another little brother?
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"You fail at physics!!!".

You fail at life. You recycled colostomy bag.
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I hope Dick Cheney shoots you in the face
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No insults there??? this is a partial list. Anyone insulted by this person should report it immediately to a moderator.
 
Yea he acts like he knows his shit and gets insulting when he cant provide evidence to his claim other than building 7 building 7 and we call him on it.
 
...and runs around with his arms up like Rocky:

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after each post. Sad...so sad.
 
its just a play by Ganymede...inside he feels alone and hopeless, creating illusions of understanding, trying to see beyond the rays of sun that shine upon the old crumbled full of dust body.
 
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