News clips from 9-11-2001 **You can't debunk this**

moementum7 said:
Yes Ganymede, I'm in agreeance with you.
I have discussed these issues with others who disagree but was still able to carry on a civilized debate in a respectful manner, and this geoffy guy is just clueless as to why it's painfull to even interact with him, it's like I'm back in kindergarden.
Yet he thinks it's his points or opinion that I'm avoiding.
Geoffy, a hint...it's not your opinions...your just an ass.
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Funny. I bring the reason, Mo brings the insults.

And the bad spelling, I see.

Write back when you have an argument or some points or something. I know the Troof is very close to your heart; I do apologize for hurting your feelings so.
 
Moe, your presence on the forum reminds me of rearranging my sock drawer. Do you have an actual argument or something?
 
I do; I have given it. It is now only for you to respond, or post something of merit.
 
Congratulations to all those who think they've won something or another in this topic. At this time I would like to reiterate in a more general context that the 9/11 Truth movement doesn't seem to be much about truth itself, but rather the egotism of its players.

Let's start with a concession to the Truth movement: Let us imagine that the towers were brought down by carefully-placed detonations. Let us pretend that, in the words of one CNBC presenter, the question is how they did it.

The hijackers/pilots did not need to know that the buildings would be detonated.

The demolitions crew did not need to know that the buildings would be hit by a plane.

I raise these points because the argument against the official story seems to have two components that theorists try to cram into one:

(1) The official story is wrong
(2) The U.S. government is guilty​

I have no doubt whatsoever that the official story is wrong. It always is at this scale. The question is how wrong. And another: Who is actually guilty?

Accepting point #1 does not require acceptance of point #2. The United States government's guilt in what happened on 9/11 can still be viewed as incompetence, negligence, &c.

Someone please, preferably a conspiracy theorist, sketch me a simple picture of 9/11 starting with one simple term: BCCI.

Just try it. I know it's not as simple as "Bush + Israel = 9/11", but at the very least you'll have some morbid fun.
 
Tiassa said:
Congratulations to all those who think they've won something or another in this topic. At this time I would like to reiterate in a more general context that the 9/11 Truth movement doesn't seem to be much about truth itself, but rather the egotism of its players.

Let's start with a concession to the Truth movement: Let us imagine that the towers were brought down by carefully-placed detonations. Let us pretend that, in the words of one CNBC presenter, the question is how they did it.

The hijackers/pilots did not need to know that the buildings would be detonated.

The demolitions crew did not need to know that the buildings would be hit by a plane.

I raise these points because the argument against the official story seems to have two components that theorists try to cram into one:

(1) The official story is wrong
(2) The U.S. government is guilty​

I have no doubt whatsoever that the official story is wrong. It always is at this scale. The question is how wrong. And another: Who is actually guilty?

Accepting point #1 does not require acceptance of point #2. The United States government's guilt in what happened on 9/11 can still be viewed as incompetence, negligence, &c.

Someone please, preferably a conspiracy theorist, sketch me a simple picture of 9/11 starting with one simple term: BCCI.

Just try it. I know it's not as simple as "Bush + Israel = 9/11", but at the very least you'll have some morbid fun.
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Well balanced perspective Tiassa:)
 
Geoff sitll can't handle that he lost the debate heh? To bad I can't see what he's saying. Im' sure it's more conjecture and no science. Geoff knows he lost the debate that's we he can't stop posting in this absurd thread as he calls it. I'll guarantee you 20 more posts from Geoff. He just can't take it that he lost. And more Americans believe a coverup then the official story. And that just boils his blood. He has no poll to support his theory that the Government is telling the truth. Isn't that sad? He can't provide just one poll showing that more people agree with him?

Checkmate
 
Ganymede said:
The video is about one second behind. You can find better versions off all of those videos. Nice try though.
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this isnt about video being behind...this is about his lips moving and not matching what he is saying 1 second or 5 seconds behind.

CONSPIRACY CRAP.
 
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