And on some forums anyone posting such unsupported (and insupportable) nonsense would have been kicked off.Firstly, I cant believe that this forum is not moderated better. On some forums people which such responses as you’ve responded with would have been kicked off.
Also wrong: the "supernatural entity" is an a priori assumption ("supported" only by a circular argument).YES this is the whole point! The FACT that this form is naturally found in nature which can be linked to a supernatural entity.
There's no evidence of that either.Since these Hebrew letters where given to Moses by G-d we should be examining them a little closer.
Wrong.And when they are examined we find that they are made by DESIGN!
A) the bible (your source) does NOT say that god gave the alphabet as an alphabet to anyone: it simply states that he wrote the tablets. Ergo if he wrote the tablets writing was already in place.Well how would you know this Dywyddyr, have you examined them yourself? You could see this for yourself if you’d like in my book.
Rubbish.The Hebrew language is the Mother Language of humankind given my G-d and spoken first by Adam and Eve.
If your book truly does show "show the similarities" I suggest that it does so only because you haveMy book points this out and shows the similarities in all recorded and documented writings that were ever found across the globe.
Your theory can be anything you want it to be: however to be taken seriously it needs to have supporting evidence, not ignorance, or a priori assumptions used as substantiation or casual dismissal of reality.My theory of what happened was that many centuries later the Hebrew letters were revised into their proper forms by G-d and given (again) to Moses on Mount Sinai.
James R deleted it as spam: it was in General Science & Technology.Wasn't there another thread on this? Did it get merged, deleted, what?
Anita said:I’m not changing my tune - you are changing it for me. What I am merely stating is that this animals that you’ve pointed out looks more like a horse than a Giraffe. I’m not debating that they may share some similarity, I am merely saying that they are not the same aminal - they are two completely different species.
spiderquote said:Spidergoat you go on to say: Evolution proves that the nesting heiarchy of species we see are not just God's variations on a theme that works. It is a mechanism by which new forms appear with no designer whatsoever. Living things show variation based on random mutations, variation leads to variable survivability. Successful variations breed more variations on that successful form. That's how evolution works. Evolution is not abiogenesis, as you incorrectly claim in your book. Evolution does not explain how the first form came about, although there are several plausible scenarios.
Incorrect. Both genetics and the fossil record prove that evolution is happening. Since your view is unfortunately common, Richard Dawkins wrote an entire book that outlines the proof.anita said:Well first you have to prove that this is happening (evolution that is), and to date there is no more evidence for evolution occuring than to that of having faith in G-d.
A rather common and boring misconception. Evolution is a fact, and the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is the theory that explains how this happens. While some details may legitimately be debated, the major themes are quite correct and well supported by peer reviewed scientific evidence.anita said:Evolution still remains a theory.
The Theory does not even need to explain genes, however it does. New genes are created when old genes are copied wrong and they can also be borrowed (in the case of bacteria) from other creatures. Most of the time, such errors are either neutral or not beneficial, but once in a while they are beneficial and they are preserved.anita said:And a theory that cannot produce “new genes” which are needed to produce an “evolved” (or mutated) creature - and this does not include tandem repeats in the genes.
spiderquote said:Spidergoat you additionally go on to say: Evolution explains why people have sex. Sex leads to greater variation, which is healthy for the species.
You have accidently described something important. Natural selection does indeed result in the deaths (or to be more accurate, the not-passing-on of a set of genes) of living things. Although this does result in a loss to the gene pool of those genes, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LESS WELL ADAPTED. Therefore, the more well adapted (or neutral) genes are the ones that survive. This results in creatures that are well adapted to their environment, since all their ancestors were also well adapted. Natural selection is a comb that weeds out less well adapted genes from the gene pool.anita said:I’ve heard this theory thousands of time already and its just not logical - let me tell you why… As the evolutionists theory goes, the environment plays a large role in this, as well as sex (female choice). But here is the thing Spidergoat, we don’t find the evidences for this in the fossil record either. I have found that many people don’t think this through logically concerning "natural selection". Natural selection is actually a loss of information. In fact it’s the “opposite” of evolution since living things are being segregated and then isolated moving to different parts of the Earth. What’s actually happening here is that these creatures are loosing information in their DNA (as you split up these populations and some die). You see over a period of time natural selection results in loss of information, specialization (adaptation or condition in response to environmental conditions), eventually getting to the stage where they cant interbreed anymore.
spiderquote said:Now concerning your other response: Anita's premise is illogical. The kind of math she ascribes only to a supernatural entity are in fact found in nature, as the result of simple rules that make the most efficient use of resources.
anita said:YES this is the whole point! The FACT that this form is naturally found in nature which can be linked to a supernatural entity. Since these Hebrew letters were given to Moses by G-d we should be examining them a little closer. And when they are examined we find that they are made by the same DESIGN!
Very nice, but ......This book is revelutionary! Because contained within is revealed one of the greatest mysteries of them all: The Primordial Language (the Mother Language - first language spoken by humankind). A mathematical language of Divine origin - linking the Hebrew letters that were given to Moses on Mount Sinai, which was recorded in Exodus 18:31 (of the Bible) to have actually been inscribed by the finger of G-d Himself. It is these letters that were recently discovered by me to be formed from "one prototype form" that incredibly bares nature’s mathematical pattern of unit growth (Phi/Pi, the Golden Spiral, and Fibonacci sequence). One might ask, what does this linkage mean? Well, when we begin to witness this connection between G-d and nature, this then reveals proof of a Divine Entity intervening (and baring witness) that He alone is the almighty G-d - that indeed "did create" EVERYTHING in existence! Hence - Divine Authorship authenticating every word of the Bible.
The book is filled with over 400 photos, diagrams and charts. The book not only reveals this greatest mystery but it goes on to talk about so much more… It talks about the Theory Of Evolution and why it is incorrect... The microcosmic relationship between nature and G-d... Egypt’s real secrets regarding the Great Pyramid and the star constellations... Sacred symbols of esoteric origins... Dimensional insights into understanding Kabala... The Bible Codes - in particular, very specific ones that declare the authenticity of the Bible itself linked to the authorship of G-d... Prophesy both past and present including end time prophesy... Biblical foreknowledge - by some means the Bible knew/knows more about science than we do today... Additionally, you may want to know how G-d's 3-part nature, the Trinity (G-d the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) is found in the very first three letters of the Hebrew Torah (Genesis 1:1 in the Bible). In addition, you will also be privy to witness how the very first paragraph of Genesis 1:1 equates to Phi/Pi (3.14). You will also see how the Great Pyramid of Egypt is linked to the Hebrew letters and a great many other things. The theory of "Time Travel" is also discussed at length and why it is abhorrent to nature, prophesy and G-d. You will also be privy to read about some of life’s secrets such as how to extend the quality and length of your life based on biblical precepts.
Having read the first 20 pages and also read your "supporting" arguments you're incorrect.None of you can truly make a determination about the book until you read it yourself.
Except that you won't tell us what's in the book and keep claiming that we have to read it (i.e. buy it) in order to refute it...Money was the farthest thing from my mind when I wrote it and it also says that within the book itself. All I’m interested in as I said above is GETTING THE GOOD WORD OUT! It’s quite obvious here who the religious racist are that will do anything to suppress the truth from the public, maiming it with money, racial comments, and negativity.
So tell us exactly what's in the book.I have come here to openly talk about the book and to release the light of this great discovery.
You have (valid) nothing to say.I have nothing to hide so like I had said – ask away?
And you have been shown where, and how, you were simply (and utterly) wrong.I have given you an ample description of the book from the very first posting in this thread which said that The Primordial Language is the Mother Language - first language spoken by humankind. A mathematical language of Divine origin - linking the Hebrew letters that were given to Moses on Mount Sinai, which was recorded in Exodus 31:18 (of the Bible) to have actually been inscribed by the finger of G-d Himself.
Why do you keep apparently conflating Phi and Pi? They are two different numbers.And I went on to say that it is these letters that were recently discovered by me to be formed from "one prototype form" that incredibly bares nature’s mathematical pattern of unit growth (Phi/Pi, the Golden Spiral, and Fibonacci sequence).
Wrong again: you have started with the premise that god exists and then used that premise to support the conclusion: that god exists.One might ask, what does this linkage mean? Well, when we begin to witness this connection between G-d and nature, this then reveals proof of a Divine Entity intervening (and baring witness) that He alone is the almighty G-d - that indeed "did create" EVERYTHING in existence! Hence - Divine Authorship authenticating every word of the Bible.
But one can get an excellent grasp of the *cough* scholarship that the book is likely to contain. And on the present information the scholarship isn't so much lacking as non-existent.One cannot get a good grasp on the whole book from just the first 20 pages
If that argument is at all similar to what you've given already then your conclusion of "incorrect" is false.It talks about the Theory Of Evolution and why it is incorrect...
All of which displays: a priori assumptions, sheer nonsense, mistaken mathematics, faulty logic, inadequate research, ignorance of the facts and general lack of any validity.The microcosmic relationship between nature and G-d... Egypt’s real secrets regarding the Great Pyramid and the star constellations... Sacred symbols of esoteric origins... Dimensional insights into understanding Kabala... The Bible Codes - in particular, very specific ones that declare the authenticity of the Bible itself linked to the authorship of G-d... Prophesy both past and present including end time prophesy... Biblical foreknowledge - by some means the Bible knew/knows more about science than we do today... Additionally, you may want to know how G-d's 3-part nature, the Trinity (G-d the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) is found in the very first three letters of the Hebrew Torah (Genesis 1:1 in the Bible). In addition, you will also be privy to witness how the very first paragraph of Genesis 1:1 equates to Phi/Pi (3.14). You will also see how the Great Pyramid of Egypt is linked to the Hebrew letters and a great many other things. The theory of "Time Travel" is also discussed at length and why it is abhorrent to nature, prophesy and G-d. You will also be privy to read about some of life’s secrets such as how to extend the quality and length of your life based on biblical precepts.
I think the only question worth asking is: are you serious?So if you have any questions please ask away?
And I repeat: unless you're prepared to submit some of the material contained within then there's little to discuss.I am willing to discuss things that are in my book even without you having read it.