You most likely own or use a number of products manufactured from rainforest materials, Jan.
Negativity - A Common Link for Religion
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You most likely own or use a number of products manufactured from rainforest materials, Jan.
Enmos
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Not exactly PE. My point is the glass is half full -- hence the desirable outcome is to fill the glass. This is the positive view.
The negative view says the glass is half empty.
It's the same glass, but the positive view offers hope whereas the negative view offers despair.
As for the atheist view -- a half full glass is good enough -- that's just the way it is to them, and what something could be is not really their concern if they can't do it themselves.
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The glass is neither half full nor half empty. It's twice as big as it needs to be.
Woody keeps making me look good
I don't know how you can wish for something better without being dissatisfied with what you already have. IOW, it ain't good enough, and that's a negative POV
The glass is neither half full nor half empty. It's twice as big as it needs to be.
spoken like an engineer...
Woody keeps making me look good
I'm here to please.
Who is is totally satisfied with what they have? Would you turn down a pay raise, better health, and is their no way your relationships could improve? Whatever you have NOW, there is always something better, somebody else that has more than you, and somebody you feel is better off than you.
It's human nature to be dissatisfied, and to feel you must out do others. As one who believes in a God, I no longer have it eating away at me. I try to be satisfied whether I am full or empty. I am in a race, not against others, rather it is against time, and I strive for something other than self-fulfillment.
ok, to you the glass is half empty. To me it's half full.
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You're referring to Earthly existence. It can be a lot better than it is no doubt.
No, it's full but you're trying to add to it. You only see it as half full.
PE,
Like I said, this whole thing boils down to belief, nothing else.
You are basing your understanding that this life is all there is, and as such
cannot, or will not, (for whatever reason) understanding different points of view.
In order to understand what you see as negitivety in religion, you must open your
mind to the possibility of the spirit-soul, and, an almighty God, and view it from that
platform.
jan.
Like I said, this whole thing boils down to belief, nothing else.
You are basing your understanding that this life is all there is, and as such
cannot, or will not, (for whatever reason) understanding different points of view.
In order to understand what you see as negitivety in religion, you must open your
mind to the possibility of the spirit-soul, and, an almighty God, and view it from that
platform.
jan.
As you said -- things could be better.
Actually it is the opposite, they make you feel good about doing wrong in the world. You are many times "forgiven" when you commit a crime or do wrong to someone.
Hobbes summed it up:
Beginning from a mechanistic understanding of human beings and the passions, Hobbes postulates what life would be like without government, a condition which he calls the state of nature. In that state, each person would have a right, or license, to everything in the world. This inevitably leads to conflict, a "war of all against all" (bellum omnium contra omnes), and thus lives that are "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short" (xiii).
From Wiki
If you agree that life is mechanistic, you have to come to the conclusion that Hobbes came to. The only human salvation is in Government.
If you believe in free will, you need a God.
If, God forbid, there is no God, we would need to invent one.
The Film director, Werner Herzog, believed that we exist in a world without order:
"I believe the common denominator of the world is not harmony," he said, "but chaos, hostility, and murder."
Beginning from a mechanistic understanding of human beings and the passions, Hobbes postulates what life would be like without government, a condition which he calls the state of nature. In that state, each person would have a right, or license, to everything in the world. This inevitably leads to conflict, a "war of all against all" (bellum omnium contra omnes), and thus lives that are "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short" (xiii).
From Wiki
If you agree that life is mechanistic, you have to come to the conclusion that Hobbes came to. The only human salvation is in Government.
If you believe in free will, you need a God.
If, God forbid, there is no God, we would need to invent one.
The Film director, Werner Herzog, believed that we exist in a world without order:
"I believe the common denominator of the world is not harmony," he said, "but chaos, hostility, and murder."
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