NAMBLA Poll

Which Sexual Behaviors are Morally Appropriate? (check all that apply)


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As for NAMBLA; Of course I don't condone sex with with minors. That should remain illegal, but a person or group talking about it or talking/advocating legalizing it is a right of free speech. If a member engages in pedophilia he should be arrested. If he speaks about it he has as much right to say it as neo-Nazis, Klansmen, the Phelps church and religious fundamentalists do with their freak-speech.
 
Genji said:
As for NAMBLA; Of course I don't condone sex with with minors. That should remain illegal, but a person or group talking about it or talking/advocating legalizing it is a right of free speech. If a member engages in pedophilia he should be arrested. If he speaks about it he has as much right to say it as neo-Nazis, Klansmen, the Phelps church and religious fundamentalists do with their freak-speech.

I don't agree with free speech, some people should well and truly have their mouths sewn up, and fed through a tube in their bellies.
 
Theoryofrelativity said:
I don't agree with free speech, some people should well and truly have their mouths sewn up, and fed through a tube in their bellies.
I have to partially agree. Nothing would please me more than opening fire on Christian fundies or Klanners at a rally but thought crimes are not crimes. How can they be? If a NAMBLA person thinks about sex with boys he has not broken the law. Advocating legalizing marijuana could be considered a thought crime. THINKING about murder but never committing one is not a crime. Opening the gates to full prosecution of thought crimes is a dangerous and slippery slope. Certainly more of a threat to the population than a lone, drooling NAMBLA member lusting for a boy.
 
Genji said:
The overwhelming majority of child predators are straight men.


Yeah sure dude, sure. They're all perverts as far as I'm concerned. BTW how many miles-o-weenie have you sucked?
 
Woody said:
Yeah sure dude, sure. They're all perverts as far as I'm concerned. BTW how many miles-o-weenie have you sucked?
OMG you are really the worst troll I've ever seen online. What a nasty question. My heart goes out to you. You are very bitter and insecure.
 
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Genji said:
I have to partially agree. Nothing would please me more than opening fire on Christian fundies or Klanners at a rally but thought crimes are not crimes. How can they be? If a NAMBLA person thinks about sex with boys he has not broken the law. Advocating legalizing marijuana could be considered a thought crime. THINKING about murder but never committing one is not a crime. Opening the gates to full prosecution of thought crimes is a dangerous and slippery slope. Certainly more of a threat to the population than a lone, drooling NAMBLA member lusting for a boy.

Thought is a crime when it is used to manipulate the masses into 'action' which it is.

Where is my needle and thread?
 
Genji said:
I have to partially agree. Nothing would please me more than opening fire on Christian fundies or Klanners at a rally but thought crimes are not crimes. How can they be? If a NAMBLA person thinks about sex with boys he has not broken the law. Certainly more of a threat to the population than a lone, drooling NAMBLA member lusting for a boy.
Nothing would please you more than opening fire on Christian fundies?
Butt "a lone, drooling NAMBLA member lusting for a boy" is not a big deal to you.

Reading your statement shows your easy acceptance of "man boy love".

How old was the dude that popped your corn?
 
Genji said:
As for NAMBLA; Of course I don't condone sex with with minors. That should remain illegal, but a person or group talking about it or talking/advocating legalizing it is a right of free speech. If a member engages in pedophilia he should be arrested. If he speaks about it he has as much right to say it as neo-Nazis, Klansmen, the Phelps church and religious fundamentalists do with their freak-speech.

Why should it remain illegal? NAMBLA is one YOURS dude.

from the WIKI:

NAMBLA describes itself as a "support group for intergenerational relationships," and uses the slogan "sexual freedom for all." According to the group's web site, its aim is to "support the rights of youth as well as adults to choose the partners with whom they wish to share and enjoy their bodies."

I thought you were for sexual freedom for all.

The North American Man/Boy Love Association calls for the abolition of age-of-consent and all other laws which prevent men and boys from freely enjoying their bodies. (2) We call for the release of all men and boys imprisoned by such laws.

That's freedom ain't it? Some boy wants a man for a sex partner, and they both enjoy it. IF it's ok to be gay then what's wrong with that. They both consent.

NAMBLA emerged from the tumultuous political atmosphere of the 1970s, particularly from the wing of the Gay Liberation movement that followed the 1969 Stonewall riots in New York City.

Both grew off the same tree.

Immediately following the Stonewall riots, some U.S. and Canadian gay rights organizations advocated the abolition of age-of-consent laws, believing that gay liberation for minors implied the permission to engage in sexual relationships.

If you're going to abolish morals, might as well do it right! :rolleyes:

At the conference these approximately 200 activists coalesced to form the National Coalition of Gay Organizations, and drafted and passed a "Gay Rights Platform"[13] which called for the "repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent." The Canadian Lesbian and Gay Rights Coalition, also known as the National Gay Rights Coalition (NGRC), supported eliminating age-of-consent laws, as did Gay Alliance Toward Equality (GATE).

Equality without equal.

The relative acceptance or indifference to opposition of the age-of-consent began to change at the same time as accusations that gays were child pornographers and child molesters became common.

OK so the decision to "dump" your pedo-fag friends wasn't based on morals. No surprises here.

Originally, the Gay Youth Caucus had won approval for its proposal demanding "Full Rights for Gay Youth, including revision of the age of consent laws."

Oh well, you gotta be a grown up to be gay, boys.

Thus by the mid-1980s, NAMBLA was virtually alone in its positions and found itself politically isolated. Gay rights organizations, burdened by accusations of child recruitment and child abuse, had abandoned the radicalism of their early years and had "retreat[ed] from the idea of a more inclusive politics," [16] opting instead to appeal more to the mainstream.

Political baggage as it were, NAMBLA got left out.

Gregory King of the Human Rights Campaign later said that "NAMBLA is not a gay organization ... They are not part of our community and we thoroughly reject their efforts to insinuate that pedophilia is an issue related to gay and lesbian civil rights." [17] NAMBLA responded by claiming that "man/boy love is by definition homosexual," that "man/boy lovers are part of the gay movement and central to gay history and culture," and that "homosexuals denying that it is 'not gay' to be attracted to adolescent boys are just as ludicrous as heterosexuals saying it's 'not heterosexual' to be attracted to adolescent girls."[15]

Sounds like a good argument to me -- NAMBLA is just as gay as anybody.

Endean, who opposed NAMBLA, said: "What NAMBLA is doing is tearing apart the movement. If you attach it [the man/boy love issue] to gay rights, gay rights will never happen." Gay author and activist Edmund White made a similar statement in his book States of Desire: "That's the politics of self-indulgence. Our movement cannot survive the man-boy issue. It's not a question of who's right, it's a matter of political naivete."

The politics of self-indulgence -- well said by a gay-rights activist.
 
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Theoryofrelativity said:
How rude you are..........

How do you say something "respectable" to a pissy lieing homo that lives for a suck-off? The lies he tells are just about continual. Can he cite any references for any of his claims? **ll no!
 
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You are making gross errors of assumption while making your comparisons wood.
You are making the assumption that a percentage(no matter how small that percentage) of pre-pubescent boys want to come home from school and have a fully grown man bugger them, you are making the assumption that 1 in 100/ 1 in 1000 or even 1 in 1000000 pre-pubescent boys fantasize about having a fully grown man for a lover, you woody are making the assumption that children(equally to adults) are capable of resisting coercion and bribery(be it material or emotional)
 
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imaplanck. said:
You are making gross errors of assumption while making your comparisons wood.
You are making the assumption that a percentage(no matter how small that percentage) of pre-pubescent boys want to come home from school and have a fully grown man bugger them, you are making the assumption that 1 in 100/ 1 in 1000 or even 1 in 1000000 pre-pubescent boys fantasize about having a fully grown man for a lover, you woody are making the assumption that children(equally to adults) are capable of resisting coercion and bribery(be it material or emotional)

The point I'm making is this: What is the basis for morality? What if a kid wants sex with another kid?

According to the research I've read, a sizeable per centage of homosexuals had their first "experience" before puberty. That's what the abolishment of the age-of-consent laws was originally about -- allowing kids to have sex with kids (or adults if NAMBLA had their way). I suggest you read the literature, and answer the question: Is it ok for a child to have sex with another child if they both consent to it?

Where do you draw the line on morality?

By the way, "the" Mohammed married an nine year old girl. Doesn't that make him a pedophile?

From the source:

Mr Moore, who opposes new legislation banning incitement to religious hatred, chose the sensitive issue of the Prophet's marriage to a nine-year-old to illustrate his case. "It seems to me that people are perfectly entitled - rude and mistaken as they may be - to say that Mohamed was a paedophile, but if David Blunkett gets his way, they may not be able to," he wrote in his weekly column. (this is what he said)

Mohammed was also a polygamist -- he had 12 wives altogether.

I'm perfectly entititled to call Mohammed a pedophile, How am I mistaken in that assessment? If some guy marries a nine year old girl, and then has sex with her, he goes to jail.
 
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q0101 said:
Necrophilia (Sex with dead people)
Once again, I am not attracted to dead people but I think the living should have the right to have sex with the dead. Most people care about what happens to their bodies or the bodies of their loved ones after they die. I couldn’t care less about what happens to my body after I die. I don't have a problem with my body being used for someone's pleausre after I am dead.
Has anyone heard Sam Kinnison's bit on homosexual necrophilia? Hillarious.
 
Is this not just an attempt to link homosexual attraction with other attractions or activities deemed unsavory?
 
Giambattista said:
Is this not just an attempt to link homosexual attraction with other attractions or activities deemed unsavory?
No. His bit was in response to news reports of homosexual necrophilia. I believe it was some guys who worked at a morgue. So any linkage of homosexuality with other unsavory activities was in the minds of the morgue workers.
 
None of them are moraly wrong...necrophllia seems unhealthy and just nasty. I have no logic behind that, just my thoughts.
 
I like to rape dead, pre-adolescent piglets. I find consent an incredible turn-off.

Woody, give up. You're obsessed, man. It's not healthy and it's not natural.
 
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