More young men in jail than college

One has to break the cycle somewhere.

Very, very easy to say - very, very difficult to do!!! We've already pointed out quite clearly and distinctly where the real root of the problem lies: in the homes with disinterested parents.
 
Yeah, looking for the "good old days" when I didn't have to worry about getting robbed or killed by darkies because progressive morons wanted to make their lives more interesting by bringing in Third World savages.

In case you don't realise it, your good ole days were a direct result of throwing off the skirts and clubs and learning from the Arabs how to use soap, carpets and bedsheets. :p

And it took you over 300 years to achieve that ;)
 
Something has to be done about the anhilation of the family. African american are just the leading edges of a storm that threatens all society. They are us in thirty years. I have stated that the Arabic nations are doomed to forever lag behind because due to sexist attitudes they remove half of their geniuses from their brain pool. We are allowing the same thing to happen in America. It is their choice to be a failure but we have to encourage them to make a more societaly profitable choice. Tax advantages and advertising massive propaganda and elevation of heros for attributes other than athletic prowess.
 
Very, very easy to say - very, very difficult to do!!! We've already pointed out quite clearly and distinctly where the real root of the problem lies: in the homes with disinterested parents.

Yeah, which lead to disinterested children which lead to disinterested parents ad nauseum.

To me it is a strange concept that parents would not do all they could to help their children make the most of opportunities. How did we get to a point where parents don't care about children and vice versa anyway?
 
Yeah, which lead to disinterested children which lead to disinterested parents ad nauseum.

To me it is a strange concept that parents would not do all they could to help their children make the most of opportunities. How did we get to a point where parents don't care about children and vice versa anyway?

This is going to be a major shock to some people here, Sam, but the answer is so obvious (and against their viewpoint) that they will absolutely refuse to believe it.

It's OUR doing - we the people and our government. How and what did we do? With the best of misguided intentions, we created a welfare state in which people who seem to naturally lack ambition can survive by making no effort at all. (That's where the lazy factor becomes the most obvious - why work hard for $300 a week when I can get $200 for doing nothing?)

With the welfare and other entitlement programs, a situation has been created that is self-perpetuating. It feeds on itself in a never-ending cycle that continuously not only regenerates itself but also grows in size.

Be careful here to mark my words: I'm very much in favor of helping those who are unable to work and really need the help. But the liberal-hearted do-gooders created this whole insane mess by expanding the benefits and lowering the requirements to qualify for the giveaways. When people who COULD work had to do so to survive, they taught their children to work also. But now that so many do NOT have to work, THAT is the lesson they teach to their kids nowdays.
 
So everyone's threshold of incompetence has been accordingly lowered by ease of living?
 
So everyone's threshold of incompetence has been accordingly lowered by ease of living?

No, not at all. We're talking about a fairly distinct group of people who have discovered how to manipulate and milk a system which was originally designed and established to help the truly needy.

It's abuse could well be thought of as a cottage industry. People learn how to beat the system, maximize their take from it and show others the proper underhanded methods to best take advantage of it.

Also, the cost of trying to police this bloated monster is enormous and understaffed. Once someone gets into the system, which isn't very difficult, it's next to impossible to get them out of it.
 
No, not at all. We're talking about a fairly distinct group of people who have discovered how to manipulate and milk a system which was originally designed and established to help the truly needy.

It's abuse could well be thought of as a cottage industry. People learn how to beat the system, maximize their take from it and show others the proper underhanded methods to best take advantage of it.

Also, the cost of trying to police this bloated monster is enormous and understaffed. Once someone gets into the system, which isn't very difficult, it's next to impossible to get them out of it.

Hmm seems to me a system like this has the propensity to become endemic, spreading throughout the society as other groups start feeling aggrieved and demand similar considerations.
 
Hmm seems to me a system like this has the propensity to become endemic, spreading throughout the society as other groups start feeling aggrieved and demand similar considerations.

Indeed - it already has. That's a part of the backlash again illegal immigrants that's growing in many parts of the country. They've found ways to cash in on the programs as well - and teach other new arrivals how to do it. Dade county (Miami) Florida has such a problem (and growing) with yet another group of immigrants - Cubans.

And at NO point am I attempting to say that ordinary "White" Americans are avoiding the gravy train. They are well involved also.
 
Indeed - it already has. That's a part of the backlash again illegal immigrants that's growing in many parts of the country. They've found ways to cash in on the programs as well - and teach other new arrivals how to do it. Dade county (Miami) Florida has such a problem (and growing) with yet another group of immigrants - Cubans.

And at NO point am I attempting to say that ordinary "White" Americans are avoiding the gravy train. They are well involved also.

There is no counterweight against it. People simply don't care enough to do anything about it. If normal people speak up they're labeled as racist bigots.
 
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