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You do not understand what is going on! It is the republicans that have turned this country into a plutocracy that has been so slow to change. The republicans are those who make tax breaks for the rich and do not aid anyone with low income as much as they should. As long as republicans are in office, this county's relations with other countries will be bad, the poor will remain poor. The only people who win with the conservatives are the upper middle class, and the rich.If there is any reason on how the democrats will affect the economy, jobs, or this countrie's GDP, please tell me!!! I am just dying to know!!!:D

I completely understand. I have no fear. There is no reason for anyone in the USA to be poor. Any loser can make it here. Look at all the thug rappers/actors etc... :rolleyes: (Eminem is one of the worst.) We don't care about relations with other countries. F them. Democrats will tax the hell out of everyone and cause a recession. They will make us pay for all the losers health insurance. They will give citizenship to the criminal aliens. They will be a disaster.

only a fool fears nothing

Only a fool fears anything.
 
I completely understand. I have no fear. There is no reason for anyone in the USA to be poor. Any loser can make it here. Look at all the thug rappers/actors etc... :rolleyes: (Eminem is one of the worst.) We don't care about relations with other countries. F them. Democrats will tax the hell out of everyone and cause a recession. They will make us pay for all the losers health insurance. They will give citizenship to the criminal aliens. They will be a disaster.



Only a fool fears anything.

first the dems will reduce the tax burden on the lower and middleclass which will boost spending. no they will create a system that will make sure everyone has health insurance. and if the illegals become citezens they will have to pay taxes.

as for the second one to have courage you must have fear. a fool fears nothing. a wise person has fears but with courage overcomes it. why don't you let people who know what they are talking about discuss important topics and you can go back to your fantasy land.
 
I completely understand. I have no fear. There is no reason for anyone in the USA to be poor. Any loser can make it here. Look at all the thug rappers/actors etc... :rolleyes: (Eminem is one of the worst.) We don't care about relations with other countries. F them. Democrats will tax the hell out of everyone and cause a recession. They will make us pay for all the losers health insurance. They will give citizenship to the criminal aliens. They will be a disaster.

Losers?! What is your definition of a loser?
Secondly, everyone needs to have health insurance, a chance at life, even if some ignorant conservatives want them to or not.
Keeping a good relation with other countries will help this country cooperate with the rest of the world, to simply get along with them. (what do you mean "we" anyways :bugeye:)
The conservatives have, are, and probably will in the future slow this country's progression in the modernizing world.
 
I am afraid of a lot of things, but at least I have the courage to admit that I have fear.
 
first the dems will reduce the tax burden on the lower and middleclass which will boost spending.

Yeah, you of all people would actually buy into that myth. Just wait until after the elections and if they win, you'll see a round of taxing and spending like you'd never believe. What will you say then when that happens???

no they will create a system that will make sure everyone has health insurance.

Possibly - that would fit right in with their spending policy. Again, when you see what it will REALLY cost (as opposed to the stupid biased links you supplied in another thread said) what, oh what will you say then?!?! I'll still be around after the elections. And if the Democrats win, you can be sure I'll remember ALL you've said and will repeatedly shove it all back down your throat.

Don't believe me? Just wait and see...
 
yes, mostly instinctive. I am nevertheless human. Fear of death, fear of extreme bodily harm, etc.
 
Yeah, you of all people would actually buy into that myth. Just wait until after the elections and if they win, you'll see a round of taxing and spending like you'd never believe. What will you say then when that happens???



Possibly - that would fit right in with their spending policy. Again, when you see what it will REALLY cost (as opposed to the stupid biased links you supplied in another thread said) what, oh what will you say then?!?! I'll still be around after the elections. And if the Democrats win, you can be sure I'll remember ALL you've said and will repeatedly shove it all back down your throat.

Don't believe me? Just wait and see...

money is more likely going to be spent by the lower or middle classes. As for health care i believe if it is done correctly will show i am right. Also money that gets spent by the lower classes tends to flow more diversly than the upper classes, basicly it gets spent again sooner. My links had bias but were not biased.
 
money is more likely going to be spent by the lower or middle classes. As for health care i believe if it is done correctly will show i am right. Also money that gets spent by the lower classes tends to flow more diversly than the upper classes, basicly it gets spent again sooner.

That's fairly accurate BUT the money held by the upper class is what usually gets invested and creates jobs and income for the other classes to spend.

My links had bias but were not biased.

Now THAT should go down in history as one of THE most stupid things ever said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
 
That's fairly accurate BUT the money held by the upper class is what usually gets invested and creates jobs and income for the other classes to spend.

which is important but the kick start that helps get the econmy flowing through spending comes from the lower classes.

Now THAT should go down in history as one of THE most stupid things ever said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

bias and biased mean 2 different things. everyone has their biases. biased is when the bias becomes overt and overwhelming. at least that is how it was explained to me in my logic class. also i checked out most of the documention for my sources most of it is unbiased hell alot of come from the actual reports from the studies done which is why i decided to use it as a source although it had a fairly strong bias in favor it's sources were some off the best i have seen. also about that tax and spend comment dude i know its late but you can do better than that old stale line.
 
bias and biased mean 2 different things. everyone has their biases. biased is when the bias becomes overt and overwhelming. at least that is how it was explained to me in my logic class. also i checked out most of the documention for my sources most of it is unbiased hell alot of come from the actual reports from the studies done which is why i decided to use it as a source although it had a fairly strong bias in favor it's sources were some off the best i have seen. also about that tax and spend comment dude i know its late but you can do better than that old stale line.

You're just as confused as ever, I see.

And as to that last part, just wait and see. If your heroes manage to win the elections big-time, you will have a LOT of serious back-peddling to do! ;)
 
You're just as confused as ever, I see.

And as to that last part, just wait and see. If your heroes manage to win the elections big-time, you will have a LOT of serious back-peddling to do! ;)

none of my heroes are running. and i am not confused. why would i back peddle its not like any of the democrats have the fucking spine to do what needs to be done. all they'll do is make lame attempts at it get attacked by the republicans and back down.
 
none of my heroes are running. and i am not confused. why would i back peddle its not like any of the democrats have the fucking spine to do what needs to be done. all they'll do is make lame attempts at it get attacked by the republicans and back down.

Figures, since that doesn't jibe with what you said earlier: "first the dems will reduce the tax burden on the lower and middleclass which will boost spending. no they will create a system that will make sure everyone has health insurance."

Sure looks like you're confused - VERY confused! :shrug:
 
Figures, since that doesn't jibe with what you said earlier: "first the dems will reduce the tax burden on the lower and middleclass which will boost spending. no they will create a system that will make sure everyone has health insurance."

Sure looks like you're confused - VERY confused! :shrug:

nah just my shitty typing than no should be an and
 
nah just my shitty typing than no should be an and

That still makes no difference even if you HAD said, "And they will create..."

You STILL don't realize that you totally contradicted yourself and that's why I say you're confused.

At one point you list two things that you believe the Democrats WILL do, and quickly following that, in another post, you say the Republicans will PREVENT them from doing ANYTHING.

You really ARE one seriously confused young man... Can't keep your story straight for even a few minutes.
 
That still makes no difference even if you HAD said, "And they will create..."

You STILL don't realize that you totally contradicted yourself and that's why I say you're confused.

At one point you list two things that you believe the Democrats WILL do, and quickly following that, in another post, you say the Republicans will PREVENT them from doing ANYTHING.

You really ARE one seriously confused young man... Can't keep your story straight for even a few minutes.

no what i said is that in the current congress much of what the dems have attepted has been blocked by the republicans. ( sadly a failing of congress when it is so close between the two parties it takes forever to get major shit done) my statements about what the dem pres will do is more along the lines of a wishlist i doubt they will have the balls to push thier agenda. not that really matters both parties are beholden to their coporate masters its just the republicans are bit more open about being owned by coprorate america.
 
no what i said is that in the current congress much of what the dems have attepted has been blocked by the republicans. ( sadly a failing of congress when it is so close between the two parties it takes forever to get major shit done) my statements about what the dem pres will do is more along the lines of a wishlist i doubt they will have the balls to push thier agenda. not that really matters both parties are beholden to their coporate masters its just the republicans are bit more open about being owned by coprorate america.

Once again, NO. What you are saying now and what you actually said before are different because you made no mention of any such "wish list" in any fashion and made no attempt to differentiate between "then" and "now."

Perhaps you aren't quite as confused as you appear and the real problem is that you lack the ability to clearly state what you mean. That would also explain why most of your posts look and read like they were thrown together by a half-awake kid of 8 or 9.
 
"... The massive account deficit we currently hold with the rest of the world totals some $800 billion per year. Where the heck is all that money coming from? From foreign investors in China, Japan, the Middle East, and nearly every other conceivable corner of the globe. ...

But like a massive Ponzi scheme, the fun will certainly end. In the past six years, the value of the dollar has taken a serious beating. The euro, worth $0.85 a few years ago, is now worth $1.47. ...

How about the foreign investors funding our perilous spending party? You'd better believe they're keeping a close eye on the dollar's precipitous plunge. As a foreign investor holding assets denominated in dollars, every drop in the dollar erodes the value their investments will be worth when they choose to convert them back to their native currency, whether yuan, yen, euros, or pounds.

{Billy T insert: This loss of purchasing power by foreigners who foolishly funded the US deficits has taught them a lesson - I.e. Some are stopping to accept dollars and most are setting up sovern funds to buy real assets, instead of the US treasury's paper promisses. - In Sept of 2007 the net sales of treaury bonds was negative, for first time in history.

Some advance the argument that US need not fear (Don't worry, Sandy is not afraid) massive selling of Treasury bonds by China* etc as no one would be there to buy, but the holders of the bonds do not need to sell the bonds to anyone to destroy the US economy. All that is necessary is not to buy more (which they have started doing) and wait for those already held to mature. US must then either default o run the printing presses.
Either way, the US ECONOMY WILL BE DESTROYED but Sandy is not afraid., nothing can hurt her, she reads the bible and prays.}

How do we keep our foreign investors happy? With a rapidly depreciating currency, there is but one way to keep them enticed: higher interest rates. You heard it: higher interest rates. With the housing and credit markets swimming in turmoil, the idea of higher interest rates sends shivers down the backs of homeowners facing foreclosure, and rightly so.

I think you can see the predicament we face: One part of our economy demands lower interest rates to bail out the housing debacle, and foreign investors who finance our massive spending habits demand higher interest rates to forestall the dollar's demise.

My goodness, this is looking scary. ..."

Read all of "The Impending Destruction of the U.S. Economy: Part 1" at:
http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...ing-destruction-of-the-us-economy-part-1.aspx

(Part 2 is due out next week. If I notice it, I will again extract part for posting here.)

Note about fool.com or The Motly Fools" (two brothers): They are far some "bleading-heart liberal rag." They are an investment evaluation firm, and often have a jump on some of the others in their recomendations. I have read them for years. They are syndicated in many US papers financial sections (for example, the main paper of Atlanta, GA).
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*as I have repeatedly pointed out it is not yet in China's interest to destroy the US. China still needs to sell much of its production to US and EU (more went to EU in 2007 than US and US is becoming less important to China with every passing year.) The Chinese domestic middle class is both rapidly growing in numbers (almost a million peasants move to the cities each month, and in individual purchasing power.) The domestic sales are current up 18.8% YoY. In addition, the 30 year contracts that China is signing in Africa and South America for the raw materials, food stock and energy represent large demands on the production of China's factories. In about a decade, China will not need to sell anything to US or EU and can tell US and EU to "Go to hell. - Your paper money is worthless." as two oil exporters had already stated. (But they take dollars still and just convert them quickly to more stable or appreciating currencies, etc.) Brazil starting 1/1/08 will not accept dollars from Argentina (and conversely) to settle the bi-lateral trade deficit, and this is growing more common else where. The dollar, is after all in reality, when faith in US economy is gone, only green paper.

Also note that when China does not need to sell to US and EU it will be greatly to China's advantage to destroy their economies so the demand for the things China must import will be greatly reduced and cost China much less.
 
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