Moderator bias

I, personally, feel I have been unfairly treated by the following moderator(s):

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spuriousmonkey said:
Surely you jest when you say instinctive since releasing the average monkey from an animal facility into the wild will get him killed in no time.

And surely I jest by trying to answer such a broad question in general terms.

There is a lot of evidence that some primate species not only have a spatial map of their surroundings, but also a temporal map. This cannot be accomplished by a genetic mechanism alone and hence needs also to be learned. A fig tree is ready to ripen. A week later it would be a good time to visit it.

Different species of monkey travel through the forest together in Africa, each occupying a different level. All keenly aware of who is where on what level, even being able to interpret each other's alarm calls, surpassing the average American by knowing 3 to 4 languages at least, and being able to find the mall (fruit tree) without roads or a car.

The world of monkeys is deep and satisfying. Just as my intestines.
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Sounds interesting, is there a good review or publication on this? I like monkeys. :p
 
spuriousmonkey said:
I'm quite sure humans have been living in riparian zones. But I guess you want to know if it has influenced our evolution?
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one_raven said:
Were we an arboreal primate?
If so, when we were was our habitat a riparian zone?
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spuriousmonkey said:
If you mean we as we humans then no or maybe. If you mean we as one of our ancestors than probably.
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one_raven said:
The question of when we became human aside, it is inconclusive whether or not we were aboreal?
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Hummmmmm


yes i see it now....... this ties in perfectly with Moderator bias:bugeye:
 
one_raven said:
The question of when we became human aside, it is inconclusive whether or not we were aboreal?
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we are not build to climb trees and hence I doubt the human species was arboreal.

That brings us back to some ancestral lineage, and then I will have to get pretty vague, and that might seem intentional, and it is.

Because it becomes rather silly to talk about these things in hindsight with the intention or earmarking a certain time in history with the concept of 'when we became human'.

That's a philosophical question more than a evolutionary one.

What we have now is merely one time frame in the human lineage. In our classification method we name that species. On an evolutionary scale it is pointless to think from the species perspective. Each generation was just as important as the previous one and no generation ever had any intention of becoming human.

Could the arboreal environment have shaped the evolution of the human lineage? Yes (assuming we spend some time there). And so could have done any other environment. And so can still the current environment.

Was the arboreal environment arboreal environment instrumental in becoming human - an absolutely false question from evolutionary perspective. Human is a classification made by us. Not a true unit of evolution as such.

Therefore your questions are not only difficult to answer due to lack of data, they are also difficult to answer for deeper reasons.
 
shorty_37 said:
Maybe you are finally seeing the light:rolleyes:
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Shorty


as mr raven says it was a very important aside....

Deviating from the thread title is hardly a rare occurance../.. we would all be suffering penalties if this is what we are going to get in toruble for.

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cheers zak
 
Zakariya04 said:
Shorty


as mr raven says it was a very important aside....

Deviating from the thread title is hardly a rare occurance../.. we would all be suffering penalties if this is what we are going to get in toruble for.

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cheers zak
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You're assuming that all people know the meaning of the word discussion.:)
 
If all deviations were to be corrected, it would be a logistical nightmare. Threads being closed for the duration of time to work their magic, posters complaining about the thread locks and of course infractions being spewed out for every slight tangent. There are elements here that moan about moderators and rules now, I dare not think of the consequences of trying to stop thread derailing.

For instance right now I could take One_raven and Spurious's abstraction and move it to it's own relevant thread in a more 'Ontopic' subforum, however doing so would leave the thread with a certain amount of disjointed assertions from people pointing out the deviation which in turn can cause greater deviation.

It should really be up to the posters to decide when they should venture to create an entirely new thread on the subject when they find they deviate too far.
 
Stryder said:
For instance right now I could take One_raven and Spurious's abstraction and move it to it's own relevant thread in a more 'Ontopic' subforum,
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practically every post since 161 can be moved there.

we need to keep this thread on target people, unless moderator bias isn't that important to you. have we explored all angles? looked at all the options? have we, the posters given the mods anything they can chew on? get their hands around? or have we only just bitched and moaned without accomplishing anything.i haven't seen anything from the mods that says "well look what happens to us when we screw up" as a matter of fact the mods here can abuse their positions without any regard to the consequences whatsoever.

stryder,
yes, start at post 161 and move them to an evolution thread.
i've created the thread here:
http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1541788#post1541788
 
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