Man Kills Child Molester

Could you kill someone who molested your child?

  • Yes, I think I could

    Votes: 29 78.4%
  • No, I don't think I could

    Votes: 8 21.6%

  • Total voters
    37
... From reading the brief story about the case it is hard to determine the murdered kids state of mind but it is a good sign that he should remorse and confessed to his mother about what happened. This show his willingness to change what he was doing and that is the first step towards repairing damage that not only he caused but damage that was caused to him.....

Catholic priests also confessed and went to be cured. :rolleyes:
 
why is it flawed? :shrug: The molester admitted he did it. The man killed him.

The question was would you kill someone who molested your child?

Btw, Orly, where did you get this story from? Do you have link? This story now makes me a bit depressed (sigh) but I am curious to what is in the detail. :confused:
 
why is it flawed? :shrug: The molester admitted he did it. The man killed him.

Because people think of a child molester as an adult.

The question was would you kill someone who molested your child?

I wouldnt rather not. For one thing, there is a chance you will go to prison and then the child will have one less parent. Otoh, it would be a good deterrent if criminals knew that the parent would assume justice.

I saw a video of a man shoot a moleser in the head as he was walking into court. I take the anguish of the parent into consideration so although i cannot condone it i can look the other way.;)
 
Catholic priests also confessed and went to be cured. :rolleyes:

If I read news about catholic priests or any other religious leaders molesting children, then somehow they get away with everything, I feel like I want to shot them dead. :mad: In my country, child molesters used to get only 7 years prison punishment (according to law). People who live in rural area or in poverty are common to sleep in one room (small house, many children or family members). Then, fathers/brothers/uncles molested their own children/sisters/nieces, and some of these children would even get pregnant again and again. This is not unusual in poor families in developing countries. When I read that kind of things, I feel like I just want to burn their houses and give all those men slow painful death. :mad:
 
If I read news about catholic priests or any other religious leaders molesting children, then somehow they get away with everything, I feel like I want to shot them dead. :mad: In my country, child molesters used to get only 7 years prison punishment (according to law). People who live in rural area or in poverty are common to sleep in one room (small house, many children or family members). Then, fathers/brothers/uncles molested their own children/sisters/nieces, and some of these children would even get pregnant again and again. This is not unusual in poor families in developing countries. When I read that kind of things, I feel like I just want to burn their houses and give all those men slow painful death. :mad:

So that's a yes then.
 
Firsr of all, i dont know the ages of these children. If they are within say around two years this would be very big detail.
 
So that's a yes then.

Unfortunately my native language isn't English. Most of these stories in my country were remain swept under the rug. Example of report in English:

Victim of child sexual abuse in Indonesia:

http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/indonesia_40484.html

Melati (not her real name), 8, lives here with her family. One day her mother noticed that Melati was not walking correctly and brought her to the health clinic. The doctors found that she was bleeding, and after an internal exam it became clear that she had been sexually abused.

The alleged rapist was a relative who is also a teacher.

Another case in Indonesia:


http://thejakartaglobe.com/news/east-java-teachers-diary-reveals-sexual-abuse/334647

East Java Teacher’s Diary Reveals Sexual Abuse

Surabaya. An elementary school teacher in East Java has been accused of repeatedly sodomizing as many as 18 of his students.

Police were able to uncover the extent of the abuse because of a diary in which the teacher, identified as Joko Waluyo, 45, kept every detail of his alleged sexual encounters with the young boys.

Wijiyanto, chief of the Kalitidu district police, said on Friday the abuse dated as far back as 2006.

Child sexual abuse in India:


http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=476&Itemid=34

The study also notes that child sexual abuse in India begins as early as five, ratchets up dramatically during pre-pubescence and peaks at 12 to 16 years. Some 21 percent of respondents acknowledged experiencing severe sexual abuse like rape, sodomy, fondling or exposure to pornographic material. Ironically, 71 per cent of sexual assault cases in India go unreported.​

Child sexual abuse according to Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse

Incest between a child or adolescent and a related adult has been identified as the most widespread form of child sexual abuse with a huge capacity for damage to a child.[10] One researcher stated that more than 70% of abusers are immediate family members or someone very close to the family.[79] Another researcher stated that about 30% of all perpetrators of sexual abuse are related to their victim, 60% of the perpetrators are family acquaintances, like a neighbor, babysitter or friend and 10% of the perpetrators in child sexual abuse cases are strangers.[11] Child sexual abuse offenses where the perpetrator is related to the child, either by blood or marriage, is a form of incest described as intrafamilial child sexual abuse.[80]

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Prevalence of parental child sexual abuse is difficult to assess due to secrecy and privacy; some estimates show 20 million Americans have been victimized by parental incest as children.[81]

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Offenders are more likely to be relatives or acquaintances of their victim than strangers.[104] A 2006–2007 Idaho study of 430 cases found that 82% of juvenile sex offenders were known to the victims (acquaintances 46% or relatives 36%).[105][106]

 
Kira,

“ Originally Posted by jpappl
So that's a yes then. ”

Unfortunately my native language isn't English. Most of these stories in my country were remain swept under the rug. Example:

Your doing just fine.

I was going by this:

When I read that kind of things, I feel like I just want to burn their houses and give all those men slow painful death.

Sounds like in your heart you would want to take care of it instead of sending it to the courts to decide.
 
Sounds like in your heart you would want to take care of it instead of sending it to the courts to decide.


You must have missed my post:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2421160&postcount=81:

Could I kill someone who molested my child? I have no child yet, but if I have, yes I could, or die trying. (does that make me a psychopat...??). But then again, I wouldn't know unless it really happens.

If the molester is my own son? Hypothetically speaking, I'd probably kill him and then kill myself, otherwise I'd be going insane. The OP is trully tragic.

I think recently the law (in my country) sets 15 years of prison for child molesters, it used to be 7 years. You would just wonder if there is justice.
 
court doesn't stop them. It just slows them down while they are incarcerated.

True. Then, after 7 or 15 years of prison, they would even be released earlier. Repeat it, impregnate their own children/sisters/nieces/students again. The children become mums before they reached puberty. Their life are finished. What I can't comprehend, in these cases, their mothers don't help them, sometimes they even blame the victims (their own daughters). Just look up the news.
 
But plenty of people do control their emotions, so that statement is neither idealist or foolish. You not being able to do what others can doesn't change that. It might simply indicate that your higher order decision-making is dysfunctional due to age or some other defect. The end result is that you live down to lower impulses than the rest of us healthy individuals.

Interesting post, Will. And what it shows me is that, for all your idealistic bullshit about being able to control your emotions, you didn't do very well controlling them or you wouldn't have let my comments bother you so much as to make a whole new thread about me! And making those derogatory comments about me? Lose emotional control, Will?

And, interestingly, if you can't control your emotions about something as innocent as a post on a forum, how could you possibly control your emotions if your 5-yr old daughter was being raped or molested by someone?

Idealism is almost always it's only defense ...it can't stand up to examination in real world conditions and situations. I.e., it's only silly idealistic words.

Baron Max
 
Idealism is almost always it's only defense ...it can't stand up to examination in real world conditions and situations. I.e., it's only silly idealistic words.

That's why they call it idealism, not realism.
 
Let him decide those things. It is his life, not yours. Your feelings don't come into play in deciding his fate.

Ha, you should talk! In one of your early posts, you said that you'd kill someone who was trying to kill someone else. But here, you say, "Let him decide those things."???

You're willing to be judge, jury and executioner in one instance, but you're adversely judging someone else for doing almost what you said that you'd do. Are you being a hippo-fuckin'-critter, Will? And I must warn you, most idealists will ultimately be shown to be just that - hippo-fuckin'-critters.

By the way, Will, you've never answered my early question;
In your little scenario, where you'd kill to prevent someone from killing someone else, ....How can you tell when someone is trying to kill someone else?
How can you tell that they're just not going to beat the shit outta' them and not kill them?

Try using your idealism to answer some of the questions I've proposed, Will, both here and in the other posts and threads. Let's see how well your idealism holds up to examination.

Baron Max
 
Ha, you should talk! In one of your early posts, you said that you'd kill someone who was trying to kill someone else. But here, you say, "Let him decide those things."???

You're willing to be judge, jury and executioner in one instance, but you're adversely judging someone else for doing almost what you said that you'd do. Are you being a hippo-fuckin'-critter, Will? And I must warn you, most idealists will ultimately be shown to be just that - hippo-fuckin'-critters.


Baron Max


In custody he is not in the immediate act of killing, so none of what you just said applies here.
 
Interesting post, Will. And what it shows me is that, for all your idealistic bullshit about being able to control your emotions, you didn't do very well controlling them or you wouldn't have let my comments bother you so much as to make a whole new thread about me! And making those derogatory comments about me? Lose emotional control, Will?

And, interestingly, if you can't control your emotions about something as innocent as a post on a forum, how could you possibly control your emotions if your 5-yr old daughter was being raped or molested by someone?

Idealism is almost always it's only defense ...it can't stand up to examination in real world conditions and situations. I.e., it's only silly idealistic words.

Baron Max

Max, you're taking your own lower order thought patterns and trying to transpose them onto normal, higher minded individuals and assuming they would act in the same way you do. That just doesn't fly.

And what derogatory comments have I made..? I think I've been civil. :cool:
 
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