It is always dark, Light is an illusion and not a thing!

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They are not guess work, I have even done the slit experiment using my eyes.

I know ''light'' is not a bunch of dots. of different spectral qualities , I also know science perceives it to be a mixture of frequencies, when in reality there is nothing to show this, nothing for assumption, because we can not measure ''light'' without interaction that makes the oscillation.
Your devices are set up to measure, exactly what they have been told to measure, it is almost comical,

I understand you can not see what I see, or consider what I have seen,
According to science, the mixture of frequencies, separate by no means.

You can not have a random process, and un-random it with out a separation means.

It just physically can not work.

You are saying that several different frequencies in a mix, magically line up in order before entry to a prism.

So which is it, you didn't read the article on prisims or you didn't understand it?
 
You are saying that several different frequencies in a mix, magically line up in order before entry to a prism.

From the wiki article about prisims:

Light changes speed as it moves from one medium to another (for example, from air into the glass of the prism). This speed change causes the light to be refracted and to enter the new medium at a different angle (Huygens principle). The degree of bending of the light's path depends on the angle that the incident beam of light makes with the surface, and on the ratio between the refractive indices of the two media (Snell's law). The refractive index of many materials (such as glass) varies with the wavelength or color of the light used, a phenomenon known as dispersion. This causes light of different colors to be refracted differently and to leave the prism at different angles, creating an effect similar to a rainbow. This can be used to separate a beam of white light into its constituent spectrum of colors.

How about that no magic required!!
 
So which is it, you didn't read the article on prisims or you didn't understand it?
Of cause I understand a prism, and refraction. I may not be able to explain it exactly, but I am certainly able to visualize the process and what is happening.
I see, light enters the prism, the prism does internal work to propagate the light.

I do not see any mechanism to separate a random mix.
 
From the wiki article about prisims:

Light changes speed as it moves from one medium to another (for example, from air into the glass of the prism). This speed change causes the light to be refracted and to enter the new medium at a different angle (Huygens principle). The degree of bending of the light's path depends on the angle that the incident beam of light makes with the surface, and on the ratio between the refractive indices of the two media (Snell's law). The refractive index of many materials (such as glass) varies with the wavelength or color of the light used, a phenomenon known as dispersion. This causes light of different colors to be refracted differently and to leave the prism at different angles, creating an effect similar to a rainbow. This can be used to separate a beam of white light into its constituent spectrum of colors.

How about that no magic required!!
That is still internal with no mechanism for the random separation.
 
Science is trying to say, that I can put several colors of paint into a big bucket, tip these colors out onto a prism face, and the colors will separate themselves and go through the prism in unison.
 
Of cause I understand a prism, and refraction. I may not be able to explain it exactly, but I am certainly able to visualize the process and what is happening.
I see, light enters the prism, the prism does internal work to propagate the light.

I do not see any mechanism to separate a random mix.

Uh, that means you do not understand a prisim.
 
Science is trying to say, that I can put several colors of paint into a big bucket, tip these colors out onto a prism face, and the colors will separate themselves and go through the prism in unison.

You do not need to keep showing that you do not understand how light and prisims work, we get it.
 
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No doubt the mods will read me the riot act before long. In saying that, it depends if the mods understand the definition of alternative, and I am quite sure they do.
By your own standards you should be banned. This is your post answering JamesR where he asks how we want to use the Alternative Theories forum:

An alternative theory has to have some merit, an alternative theory should have present knowledge defined in it. The reason, an alternative theory is looking to Paradox the present theories, and need more persuasive content than just make believe.

Years of science and experiment can not be overturned by imagination, without having some credible facts or undeniable to all observers facts.
Stubbornly contradicting that you repeatedly post :
You can post has many links on present knowledge as you like, I have read them over and over again.
No you haven't. Like a child you are sitting with your fingers in your ears having a tantrum because no one is humoring you. By voice vote, all the members here declare you persona non grata. So go away.

The people who are posting have no idea what being objective is.
Said the child with his fingers in his ears.

Work does not mean a machine, I suggest the person looks up the word work.
We don't need to. You do. In the context of this discussion, work is the energy converted in a machine to do something useful. That term has been employed in science at least since James Watt perfected the steam engine. It has the symbol W in most texts. Look it up yourself.

If I was trolling,
By your own admission you have no science training and yet you are telling trained folks they are wrong. That satisfies the definition of trolling.

I would multi post on all subjects, and then I would piss people off. Gravity included would be argued.
Yeah, if trolls wrote the rules.

I stand by my idea,
Your idea is to approach adults as a petulant child and ignore all facts and evidence contradicting you as something you call "present knowledge", which is supposed to discount all knowledge as useless and inferior to your personal fantasies and feelings of grandeur. Hence paddoboy referenced Napoleon.

Instead of being a jerk, just speak to the facts and evidence contradicting your claims, admit your mistakes, and move on.

It's that deliberate intent to persist as a jerk, irritating the common sense of good readers, which characterizes a troll.

and have provided the evidence observation tests, that prove what I am saying to be true.
Liar. You are dismissing the most basic evidence, beginning with your own admission that you are unqualified to infer anything about science. You are ignoring simple definitions like "white" or "work" and usurping the whole lexicon of science with your proprietary childlike gibberish.

It's all for the purpose of being duplicitous, trying to incite readers. Hence they declare you a troll.

I am 41, a family man, and not insane or deluded.
None of that serves as a character reference contraverting your pathological display of dishonesty and grandiosity.

So far most posters in this thread, have only one purpose , to get another person banned.
Liar. They entered the thread with facts and evidence to help teach you the science you admitted ignorance of. But you ignored it as something you labelled "present knowledge" which you implied is inferior to your ignorance.

Only then did the voice vote turn against you. AlexG spotted you in advance, as he does for the benefit of readers, after dealing with scams like yours for years in multiple forums.
It is you are trolling a perfectly innocent thread.
Said the poster banned for trolling on other sites, after ignoring all of the facts and information I posted to correct his errors, namely:

When a light ray crosses the boundary between one medium and another, the impedance change causes the velocity of the light to change, thereby shifting the spectrum. Therefore the premise of the thread is disproved.

I am not attacking you, so refrain from the insults and attacking me as a person.
You have insulted yourself by acting the fool. Don't expect to be mollycoddled here.

Feel free to criticise the idea, and discuss the idea, otherwise do not post. It is your choice to read and post.
Don't patronize me. Grow up and admit defeat when you're licked.
 
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If you can tell me how I can mix paint colors in a big tub, pour them onto a prism face, and the colors separate by no means, then I will give up.
Well obviously your comparison must be flawed so rather than repeating your error you need to reverse course and listen to what your betters are telling you. Whatever caused you to flunk science obviously was the wrong tack. So get out of that rut and wise up.

Read origin's excellent technical explanation and repeat it back to us to prove you want to rehabilitate your ignorance.
 
By your own standards you should be banned. This is your post answering JamesR where he asks how we want to use the Alternative Theories forum:


Stubbornly contradicting that you repeatedly post :
No you haven't. Like a child you are sitting with your fingers in your ears having a tantrum because no one is humoring you. By voice vote, all the members here declare you persona non grata. So go away.


Said the child with his fingers in his ears.


We don't need to. You do. In the context of this discussion, work is the energy converted in a machine to do something useful. That term has been employed in science at least since James Watt perfected the steam engine. It has the symbol W in most texts. Look it up yourself.


By your own admission you have no science training and yet you are telling trained folks they are wrong. That satisfies the definition of trolling.


Yeah, if trolls wrote the rules.


Your idea is to approach adults as a petulant child and ignore all facts and evidence contradicting you as something you call "present knowledge", which is supposed to discount all knowledge as useless and inferior to your personal fantasies and feelings of grandeur. Hence paddoboy referenced Napoleon.

Instead of being a jerk, just speak to the facts and evidence contradicting your claims, admit your mistakes, and move on.

It's that deliberate intent to persist as a jerk, irritating the common sense of good readers, which characterizes a troll.


Liar. You are dismissing the most basic evidence, beginning with your own admission that you are unqualified to infer anything about science. You are ignoring simple definitions like "white" or "work" and usurping the whole lexicon of science with your proprietary childlike gibberish.

It's all for the purpose of being duplicitous, trying to incite readers. Hence they declare you a troll.


None of that serves as a character reference contraverting your pathological display of dishonesty and grandiosity.


Liar. They entered the thread with facts and evidence to help teach you the science you admitted ignorance of. But you ignored it as something you labelled "present knowledge" which you implied is inferior to your ignorance.

Only then did the voice vote turn against you. AlexG spotted you in advance, as he does for the benefit of readers, after dealing with scams like yours for years in multiple forums.

Said the poster banned for trolling on other sites, after ignoring all of the facts and information I posted to correct his errors, namely:

When a light ray crosses the boundary between on medium and another, the impedance change causes the velocity of the light to change, thereby shifting the spectrum. Therefore the premise of the thread is disproved.


You have insulted yourself by acting the fool. Don't expect to be mollycoddled here.


Don't patronize me. Grow up and admit defeat when you're licked.
I am not saying the people are wrong, they did not write history. I am saying the nature of light has been seriously overlooked and complacency set in, because we always perceived light to be a thing. And I am clued up on various science.

I may not know all the correct definitions, but I certainly understand the concept of science, and to advance on the thinking of present knowledge, I am eager, ambitious, and have learnt. People are still quoting back knowledge I know. It would be a terrible alternative theory if I just bowed down and submitted. And it would be a boring read if I was posting about only present knowledge, which anyone with the internet has instant access too.


You still avoid the logical questions that show you my theory has merit.

Time dilation , I killed it with one sentence. Time does not care what the atoms are doing, a parlour trick.

added- draw the 9 dimensional model I explained. You can clearly see that all observers observe time the same.
 
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Time dilation , I killed it with one sentence.
You are delusional. Please repeat this amazing sentence.
added- draw the 9 dimensional model I explained. You can clearly see that all observers observe time the same.
Drawing a little picture that has nothing to do with anything real only increases the evidence that you are deliusional.

Well, you may just be trolling for fun as opposed to delusional, I do not know which it is.
 
You are delusional. Please repeat this amazing sentence.

Drawing a little picture that has nothing to do with anything real only increases the evidence that you are deliusional.

Well, you may just be trolling for fun as opposed to delusional, I do not know which it is.
Time does not care about what the timing of an atom is. An atom is not time.

Draw a little picture , really?. A model , with true accurate accounting of time and space.


From every dimension time is observed the same, for all observers. draw the model and rotate it which ever way you like, time stays the same for all observers.


I am a neutral observer of science, objective to myself. And special relativity is a subject I understand.

Time is multi dimensional , yet has no dimension, time moves if in velocity, or even if static, time is relative to matter, but also relative to space. It is not me lacking in knowledge, it is science that is behind in knowledge. And missing the obvious kinder garden science.
 
Time does not care about what the timing of an atom is.
That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. Time doesn't care?

An atom is not time.
Um, why would you even write something so trivially obvious?

Draw a little picture , really?. A model , with true accurate accounting of time and space.
Yes a little meaningless little pictures. So you don't know what a model is in scientific terms.

From every dimension time is observed the same, for all observers.
What do you think that means? What do you think a dimension is?

And special relativity is a subject I understand.
No kidding? What does special relativity say about time dilation? What does special relativity say about simultaneity ?

Time is multi dimensional , yet has no dimension, time moves if in velocity, or even if static, time is relative to matter, but also relative to space. It is not me lacking in knowledge, it is science that is behind in knowledge. And missing the obvious kinder garden science.
What a bunch of gibberish. This does not even rise to the level of kindergarten science.
 
I am not saying the people are wrong, they did not write history.
Meaningless nonsense. This is basic science, not history.
I am saying the nature of light has been seriously overlooked and complacency set in,
The only complacency is your own. Obviously public education failed to recognize the harm of collecting the books at the end of the year. It creates fools like you by depriving you of the opportunity to re-read your 7th grade science lessons every night before you go to bed.

The complacency then is your stubborn refusal to go buy the books you need to reinstate yourself at the 7th grade level.

because we always perceived light to be a thing.
Speak for yourself. The rest of the world never said such a thing. Light is radiant energy. Otherwise photoreception in the retina would be useless.

You really are blind.

Your stubborn insistance on using childish language like "thing" rather than to admit that words like "electromagnetic wave" are part of the essential lexicon to intelligently discuss the topic you opened illustrates the reason you fear being banned. You are guilty and you know it.

And I am clued up on various science.
Liar. By your own admission you are clueless, and your posts confirm it. As long as you refuse to learn and employ the common lexicon if science, this lie will persist.

I may not know all the correct definitions, but I certainly understand the concept of science, and to advance on the thinking of present knowledge, I am eager, ambitious, and have learnt.
Lies and denial. Until you admit that you are illiterate you can not take notice of your flaws and then take corrective action to learn the material you are ignoring. Declaring yourself educated does not make it so. You have to be able to pass the tests. You have flunked them here.
People are still quoting back knowledge I know.
Still lying. You do not know, nor can you correctly describe: white light, spectrum, impedance, velocity of light in a vacuum, velocity of light in media, refraction, and spectral shifting due to velocity change. You still refuse to acknowledge the scientific meaning of work and you still insist that refraction is "internal work". In short you are evading all facts and evidence which constitute the knowledge you pretend to embrace.

It would be a terrible alternative theory if I just bowed down and submitted.
That's just a dumb excuse for admitting you're wrong. All you're looking for is someone to pander to your pathological grandiosity. Try a religion board. We aren't your pastors.

And yes, ignorance has to bow down to knowledge. Only one can master the other.

Get over it dude. You're just being incorrigibly dumb. What happened to you - were you damaged by a science teacher that spanked you? Or is this a drug problem?

And it would be a boring read if I was posting about only present knowledge, which anyone with the internet has instant access too.
Another dumb cluck lie. No one but you finds childish gibberish more interesting than science.

You still avoid the logical questions that show you my theory has merit.
You have neither theory nor merit. You have useless ignorance.

You alone are evading the wealth of information spoon fed to you by the good folks here. So stop crying.
Time dilation , I killed it with one sentence.
No, time is relative, as proven everytime you take a GPS fix. Nothing anyone says can reverse the reality of relativity. And especially nothing you say.

Time does not care what the atoms are doing, a parlour trick.
More gibberish. Now go find out how GPS proves relativity.
added- draw the 9 dimensional model I explained. You can clearly see that all observers observe time the same.
Natural law is not a parlor trick. Trolling to try to make it so is the game to end all creationist parlor tricks. So get off the gas.

Your childish ideas, supported by childish illustrations, add nothing. You can't repeal the laws of nature. Even your God (I presume that's the bottom line here) can't repeal the laws of nature. And if God can't repeal the laws if nature then no mortal can. Not even a qualified expert and certainly not the dumbest cluck among every other box of rocks that darkens our doorstep.

So just grow up and admit you were wrong.
 
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