Sorry for this delay—the seas are quite rough these days.
SW: in your sea of non sequitur you pass off as a reply to my posts
Be glad you have no seven seas to navigate through.
SW: your hypothesis depends on a central theme: that extraterrestrials are here and space aliens are abducting people.
A bit simplistic for my taste—for my
nitimur in vetitum.
SW: That simply hasn't been demonstrated to be factual and, indeed, my posts have demonstrated that the alternative hypothesis is far more plausible.
But what you "demonstrate" as being factual—conclusive evidence and hypotheses garnered from surveys, lab experiments, psychology, folklore—is reached, firstly, by duplicating said problems satisfactorily, or filling-in gaps with similar adaptations, or improvising with features that are analogous but whose derivatives are clearly at variance. Yet, for all your polished and elegant demonstrations, there is
one component in this whole scenario that can not be
absolutely substituted for. Hence, your hypotheses never much provided me with much qualification. Not that I dismissed them for others. It's strange though to remark the reverse is true for you too—that for all the "demonstrations" I lack, the one component I don't lack does not qualify for you in the least. Funny that.
SW: That you choose not to accept it is, of course your perogative, but one that is biased to your beliefs, not of evidence.
And how would you know from where I base my bias? When does a "prerogative" become a prerogative?
SW: First, I'm not sure how I may have "reinvented the meaning of 'belief.'"
Right. A typo. I noticed that too, a few days later. I should have said: I think you are being unfair, and excessively—or perhaps desperately—reinventing the
significance of "belief". Then I followed up with a list of examples where "belief" is merely a consequence and procedure instigated from a preceding
foreign experience; belief is not the impetus to experience, nor a state of being, but a reaction, like slamming into a glass door.
SW: Belief in the UFO-ETI hypothesis is *not* grounded in scientific method but rather the supernatural.
The
actuality of experience is hardly of the supernatural—but in this case it can certainly
be made to appear as such, or accounted for in a language that also describes the supernatural. But since I'm not at all into the supernatural, I must find other means to describe my experiences. But I've already gotten almost bored with attempting to describe any of it—words can so easily mock and even alter the nascent nature of an experience-come-conscious. So I just let the waves wash over me.
SW: Second, I don't see that you've demonstrated my unfairness at all. Indeed, all you've really done is show that I'm being fair!
I was pointing out at how you were treating the word "belief", as though it were linked to an immorally, narrow-minded end in itself. A cul-de-sac. My impression of your rhetoric was that an experience was no longer relevant but had to be smothered before it could breath full consciousness.
SW: I've admitted on several occasions in this and other threads that I'm open-minded to the space alien hypothesis. I hold my assertions and hypotheses provisionally. That's far more than I've seen several others admit to on the believer side of the debate.
Well, I could deny myself and have it both ways, I suppose, but my experiences would then accuse me of subversion.
SW: Neither you or duendy seem willing ot acknowledge even one case of sleep paralysis or false memory is possible.
What you are shunning is the fact that we are applying our exploration to alien scenarios
that involve the other type of paralysis and the other type of real memories; not those that don't.
SW: what would be the point in my alleged "desparation?"
It was an impression.
SW: I would love the opportunity to examine a completely alien culture -one that no other anthropologist has. Yet I maintain that the space alien hypothesis is, as yet, quite unevidenced.
I understand.
SW: And my assertion is that belief in alien abductions in the face so much evidence for the alternative hypothesis and no evidence for the ETI hypothesis is foolhardy.
It's like this: you require certain materials to form a solid perspective. The perspective you seek must proceed from a definite starting point. I require certain materials to form a solid perspective. The perspective I seek must proceed from a definite starting point. Both our requirements and our starting points discharge from different perspectives.
Nitimur in vetitum.
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