yeah i understand that. people are stupid and arrogant at the same time and don't understand what the bible is for, so they think it's for them to interpret.
"People are stupid and arrogant"...all but you of course, huh? Beautiful. Anyway...my point being this, Lori. You believe that this Biblical God is real and alive. So, maybe it's easier for you to rely on the statement "Well, God did it so it must be right", no matter if it's killing babies or toying around with others just to see if they love him more than their own children (like when in the Bible God told Abraham to sacrifice his own son). It's funny though, how this Biblical God will tell others (not all, as he has had people to carry out his dirty work per his instructions) to act the exact opposite to his dark side. Some people also believe that President Bush is a great president and stand behind his decisions no matter what they are, simply because he is a republican (I know some people who believe this way).
why do you call him "the biblical god"? there's only one god, or are you some polytheist?
Because I have a hard time believing that a true God would lower himself to barbaric acts and killing what he claims to love. What's the saying, love is a verb.
it's ridiculous to question god. not that i don't do it mind you but it is a ridiculous thing to do.
Moses questioned whether God should destroy the Jews or not and actually got God to change his mind.
God said to Moses:
“Now then let Me alone, that My anger may burn against them, and that I may destroy them; and I will make of you a great nation.”
Moses replied:
Turn from Thy burning anger and change Thy mind about doing harm to Thy people. 13“Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, Thy servants to whom Thou didst swear by Thyself, and didst say to them, ‘I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heavens, and all this land of which I have spoken I will give to your descendants, and they shall inherit it forever. 14So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people’”
So, was Moses ridiculous too?
like i said, i don't know what planet you're on, but here on this one, i see and hear about god killing people all the time. there's brutality, sickness, suffering, and death everywhere i look, so it makes perfect sense to me that the same things were going on in the ot day.
So you have actually heard God say or know of others where God has told them that he was going to kill someone because he was pissed at them? You have heard him say because someone lied that he struck them down and killed them? Have you heard him say that babies were evil and therefore killed them? etc... How do you know he directly ordered these things done because of his bully attiude? There's a mother who resides in the town that I do who killed her children because she believed God told her to. I always assumed it was because she was mentally unstable, what's your take on it?
well i would venture to say that's becuase you're short-sighted. god created charles manson see, and all the while knowing exactly what charles would do.
BUT, did God ask Charles Manson to brainwash his followers and convince them to kill these people brutally? See, that would make a difference to me.
heart, there is brutality everywhere in god's world and under his control. as i said before, "where the fuck are you?" seriously, what are you not seeing? i look at the ot god, and i look at his world today, and i say, "yep, that's him!"
I never implied that there wasn't brutality in this world, ever. But there is also good in it as well. Anyway, I believe there is a difference between someone dying because of natural causes, accidents, and being killed by someone's hand VS God getting pissed off and killing them, commanding others to do so, etc...
did you say "she bears"? *hysterical laughter* that was great, thanks!
Why?
wow what? listen if you're so concerned about abused and suffering children then what the fuck are you doing about it exactly? i've known you for a long time and i had no idea you had this concern so tell me, what are you doing to help stop child abuse in your own life on a daily basis? eating pussy, drinking beer, and making money? well i happen to have taken foster care classes on saturdays for weeks, have taken a job that i hate, so i can make the money i need to fix up my house, to make it more accomodating for three to five kids, and i'm planning to take those kids, who were being abused and neglected, in my home, and care for them 24/7. don't you point your fucking finger at me.
I'm not pointing fingers, I was just stunned at your statement, Lori. How is the word "wow" pointing fingers?
I'll be the first to tell you, and I have repeatedly I might add, that what you are doing is great.
Currently, I cannot tell you that I'm helping abused children or children in genral. But, I have in the past. Not only in raising money for them but also helping with food drives during the summer, thanksgiving and christmas time. I have spent time with children and have been there for them when they have had serious problems when I taught Sunday and Weds night classes at church. Plus, I helped raise and provide for 2 twin boys for 7 years who were not my own. (and no, their mother didn't live with me) Don't
you point your finger at me and suggest that all I have ever cared about is sex, beer, and money, because that's fucking bullshit.
listen, i can think all day long, but do you think i should be giving god advice?
Like I said, Moses did it and because of it lives were spared.
well hon, you rid the world of violence, and we'll all call you god okay?
I'm NOT saying that the violence in the world today is a direct order of God. I'm talking about the scriptures of the Bible where it was commanded and where he exhibited his out of control anger by killing people, manipulating people, using scare tatics and so on.