If pornography is demeaning to women...

John99 said:
Honestly, the bad thing for a man is that women get attached to you and i admit that i lied to them a lot so i guess that was the bad part. The go from loving you to hating you and they can be pretty scary when their pissed off.
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So can men, thats not about women that's about people. I can be pretty scary when someone lies to me. I have gone from loving someone to hate before now. It's not an uncommon human reaction, it's certainly not exclusive one to females.
 
EmmZ said:
I'd have to disagree with that one too. Of course they do.
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Which male is going to say, I'm not aroused by this porn film because it demeans men ?

LA said:
yes they do!

also it all depends on the sort of sexual encounters theya re having, if for example, a man is shagging a woman from behind and putting her head down the toilet then yes that is demeaning.

(sorry about the crudeness but i didnt know how else to explain myself)
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As long as there is some sort of sexual activity, most men watching the porn won't really care. Some might find it less appealing than others, but most will probably keep watching,If it were a man being put down.
 
EmmZ said:
Because sex is power baby, sex is power ;)
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i never see the point in using sex has a way to get what you want!

seriously there are better ways to get what you want!

(for example for once i didn't talk to my husband for 4 weeks, then after that he gave up and gave me what i wanted)
 
EmmZ said:
Sincerely, I hope you're ok. Please don't think I'm disregarding men's experiences. I'm not, not at all.
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Yeah I don't like the screw men feminist attitude. My partner used to be a bit hardline before I met her, she is very balanced now. Basically I have problems with unfair treatment. Women in porn do have unfair treatment on basis of their gender. However some men do get worked over by some pretty manipulative women. My point is I feel for the victims in each scenario but manipulative people come in both sexes (unfortunately I have met both).
 
lucifers angel said:
i never see the point in using sex has a way to get what you want!

seriously there are better ways to get what you want!

(for example for once i didn't talk to my husband for 4 weeks, then after that he gave up and gave me what i wanted)
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I'd have just screwed his brains out and got what I wanted that very same day. :shrug:
 
EmmZ said:
Sincerely, I hope you're ok. Please don't think I'm disregarding men's experiences. I'm not, not at all.
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I am not really ok. The main thing is i have no skills to support myself. So i am going to school soon but i wasted 10 years and i dont think things are going to work out for me.
 
John99 said:
I am not really ok. The main thing is i have no skills to support myself. So i am going to school soon but i wasted 10 years and i dont think things are going to work out for me.
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can i ask, what did you do? were you a prostitute? how were you involved in the sex industry?
 
Challenger78 said:
Which male is going to say, I'm not aroused by this porn film because it demeans men ?



As long as there is some sort of sexual activity, most men watching the porn won't really care. Some might find it less appealing than others, but most will probably keep watching,If it were a man being put down.
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I would have agreed in the past but that just shows you are not of the same attitude as most others (a good thing). Time and time again I have seen on forums related to porn (with predominant male users) a person get flamed something wicked for posting stuff demeaning to men. Women that's ok but they just can't handle the men being mistreated or any voice of descent speaking against the macho mistreatment of women in porn. Users who bring this up usually have the mods come down on them like a ton of bricks for very little if any cause. It seems they have some sexist traits without realising it. This seemed common attitude and response, I am glad I don't feel threatened like them and glad to see some people here don't seem to think that way. The fact that there are so many here discussing it rather than spouting hate and exhibiting classic denial is a good thing to see.
 
Challenger78 said:
Which male is going to say, I'm not aroused by this porn film because it demeans men ? As long as there is some sort of sexual activity, most men watching the porn won't really care. Some might find it less appealing than others, but most will probably keep watching,If it were a man being put down.
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You reiterate my point finely on the subject of women having it tougher, most porn doesn't involve men being treated so disgustingly it borders on rape. But given the same set of circumstances I'm sure men wouldn't watch it.

I originally disagreed because I thought you were saying men don't care about what other men, or themselves look like on camera. Or are affected by that.
 
Creeptology said:
This seemed common attitude and response, I am glad I don't feel threatened like them and glad to see some people here don't seem to think that way. The fact that there are so many here discussing it rather than spouting hate and exhibiting classic denial is a good thing to see..
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I would avoid the politics and religion sections, then.
 
Creeptology said:
I would have agreed in the past but that just shows you are not of the same attitude as most others (a good thing). Time and time again I have seen on forums related to porn (with predominant male users) a person get flamed something wicked for posting stuff demeaning to men. Women that's ok but they just can't handle the men being mistreated or any voice of descent speaking against the macho mistreatment of women in porn. Users who bring this up usually have the mods come down on them like a ton of bricks for very little if any cause. It seems they have some sexist traits without realising it. This seemed common attitude and response, I am glad I don't feel threatened like them and glad to see some people here don't seem to think that way. The fact that there are so many here discussing it rather than spouting hate and exhibiting classic denial is a good thing to see.
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It's early days yet Creept'. Wait till the big boys come home from work, you're only dealing with the "bored housewifes", students and unemployed at the moment. When the men get home from work and see what's been going on there'll be hell to pay.
 
EmmZ said:
You reiterate my point finely on the subject of women having it tougher, most porn doesn't involve men being treated so disgustingly it borders on rape. But given the same set of circumstances I'm sure men wouldn't watch it.

I originally disagreed because I thought you were saying men don't care about what other men, or themselves look like on camera. Or are affected by that.
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Oh, everyone cares about how they look, we are all vain. While I agree that a lot wouldn't watch it, theres an equal amount that would.

On a side note, since women don't have the same obsession with porn as men, I'd doubt a lot of women would find female dominance over man appealing.. Or am i just being naive here ?.
 
clusteringflux said:
I would avoid the politics and religion sections, then.
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Point noted, haven't visited there but have no intention. I am new here but tend to stay clear of politics and religion. I am quite content with my own religious and political views and don't want to force them on anyone else nor others to insist why I am wrong and their view is better because they say. My views work for me and theirs for them. Like different medicine for different people. Hence I avoid politics and religion sections.
 
EmmZ said:
It's early days yet Creept'. Wait till the big boys come home from work, you're only dealing with the "bored housewifes", students and unemployed at the moment. When the men get home from work and see what's been going on there'll be hell to pay.
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pffft, No one at sciforums has a job.
 
Come one. Men are more visually oriented. In contrast i know women who do things medically, like treat wounds and stuff like that that i could never do because i cant stand to look at stuff like that. They dont seem to view bodily functions the same wasy. It is asdmirable but thats not for me.
 
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