Human Life and Sin

[kx000]

Not according to the OT. Again I suggest you read it.

Here is a couple while you think about it, since you refuse to look them up.

Numbers 31

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Samuel 1;15

"...attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

Judas did it.

 

[DaveC426913]

Judas did it.

Really? Judas spoke The Word of God to the people? Was God OK with that?

 

[Pinball1970]

Judas did it.

Judas did what?

The events in those texts were around 1300 years before Judas was alive. This is like saying Kemal Atatürk was instrumental in establishing a stable rule over England.


Either 1/You are troll. Thanks for wasting my time or...

2/You are so clueless regarding the Bible you have no idea on history/legends, time lines or characters in the Bible. i.e. you have no idea of what the Bible is or says.

 

[kx000]

Judas did what?

The events in those texts were around 1300 years before Judas was alive. This is like saying Kemal Atatürk was instrumental in establishing a stable rule over England.


Either 1/You are troll. Thanks for wasting my time or...

2/You are so clueless regarding the Bible you have no idea on history/legends, time lines or characters in the Bible. i.e. you have no idea of what the Bible is or says.

If there is a Judas then evil infiltrated religion long ago, and it will be loyal to him.

 

[Magical Realist]

Sin is the flimsy invention of weak-willed and hypocritical men who needed an excuse to judge and condemn others who disagree with them. It is a dead fossil of a religion that controlled the people with fear and threat of eternal damnation. In reality there is no such thing as sin. There is no inner impulse to do evil things or to hurt other people. We are all just bipedal simians living out our lives the best we can. Sometimes we make bad choices, but this is no violation of some divine will that we remain infallible our whole lives.

 

[kx000]

Sin is the flimsy invention of weak-willed and hypocritical men who needed an excuse to judge and condemn others who disagree with them. It is a dead fossil of a religion that controlled the people with fear and threat of eternal damnation. In reality there is no such thing as sin. There is no inner impulse to do evil things or to hurt other people. We are all just bipedal simians living out our lives the best we can. Sometimes we make bad choices, but this is no violation of some divine will that we remain infallible our whole lives.

suffering was taken from the abyss, then sin… but only once mankind already existed. Like in Pandoras Box, or Adam and Eve.

 

[DaveC426913]

suffering was taken from the abyss, then sin… but only once mankind already existed. Like in Pandoras Box, or Adam and Eve.

Now you've introduced a new buzz word: the abyss.

Is there any rationale for any of what you said outside the testaments? I mean, if you're just reciting bits of the testaments, you should start a blog.
You don't seem to have any questions, or anything you want to discuss; you seem to be just lecturing.

 

[kx000]

Now you've introduced a new buzz word: the abyss.

Is there any rationale for any of what you said outside the testaments? I mean, if you're just reciting bits of the testaments, you should start a blog.
You don't seem to have any questions, or anything you want to discuss; you seem to be just lecturing.

The abyss is nothingness, it can’t exist on its own. There must be life first, then Adam consumed the forbidden fruit bringing all sun and diseases into the world.

 

[DaveC426913]

The abyss is nothingness, it can’t exist on its own.

What I asked was: where did you get it from? Is it part of the testament or something?

 

[James R]

kx000 just wants to preach.

 

[Magical Realist]

suffering was taken from the abyss, then sin… but only once mankind already existed. Like in Pandoras Box, or Adam and Eve.

There is no estimate of the amount of suffering that religion has caused people over the ages. From the guilt and shame of sin, to the fear of divine judgement, to the hatred and intolerance it inspires towards outsiders, religion has failed miserably in providing humanity with anything like consoling answers to the mystery of existence. 2000 years and you'd think it would've come up with some valuable wisdom or knowledge that would make sense of our rather random and fleeting lives in this troubled world. But no, its only offering are fantastical fables from a book originally penned by goatherders and translated and redactated repeatedly over the centuries. The god it proposes is quite literally the profile of a belligerent, cruel, and impulsive tyrant who we must grovel before to escape the fate of eternal hellfire. And that we ingrain this mythology into our children and expect them to turn out fine is the most the tragic of ironies. Religion only makes them more insecure and dependent on what is thought of them, draining their natural reserves of confidence and daring and replacing it with false hope and hesitancy and habitual humilation. To hell with religion I say! Love and accept yourself for who you are.

 

[Pinball1970]

The abyss is nothingness, it can’t exist on its own. There must be life first, then Adam consumed the forbidden fruit bringing all sun and diseases into the world.

More meaningless, garbled, superstitious nonsense.
You can get something good from religion if you try hard enough but this ain't it.
I will leave you to preach to yourself, which is pretty much what you have been doing since post one.

 

[kx000]

More meaningless, garbled, superstitious nonsense.
You can get something good from religion if you try hard enough but this ain't it.
I will leave you to preach to yourself, which is pretty much what you have been doing since post one.

No your just ignorant. The abyss is nothingness, even God could not create it, but mankind introduced temptation on itself, when one of Adams friends made an accusation against another caveman, thus creating evil, and suffering. In Greek mythology they have Pandoras Box, where all Diseases and sins are released on reality, and the Jews believe in the consumption of the forbidden fruit, knowledge of good and evil.

 

[DaveC426913]

No references, no citations, no discussion, no defense. Just preaching.

Sci-Fo takes a dim view of sermonizing without any good-faith intent to engage.

Requesting this thread be closed.

 

[kx000]

No references, no citations, no discussion, no defense. Just preaching.

Sci-Fo takes a dim view of sermonizing without any good-faith intent to engage.

Requesting this thread be closed.

I referenced multiple religions on the topic in my last post.

 

[DaveC426913]

I referenced multiple religions on the topic in my last post.

Ba ha no. Listing things is not referencing them.

A reference is "The abyss is nothingness AND here is a trustworthy article that tells you about it so you can read further and know I didn't just make it up off the top of my head..."

You make many claims that you do not back up. For example,

• (post 86) you keep mentioning the abyss, yet you provide no reference to any documentation about it.
  
  
• (post 81) apparently you think Judas did a bunch of nasty things, such as
  • kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him
  • attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them.

Care to provide a reference to says Judas killed all those children and women?​

As far as we can assume, these are just things you made up. In fact, you call others ignorant while you seem to be ignorant

You probably didn't mean to imply that, but the problem is that you are spending too much time writing and not enough time reading. Your God gave us two ears and only one mouth for a reason.

 

[James R]

Clearly, kx000 only wants to preach.

I suggest, kx000, that you review our site Posting Guidelines, which are available in a sticky thread in the Site Feedback subforum. Please read the sections on preaching, evangelism and propaganda before you post again.

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