Stryderunknown said:
VRob,
Why do you think the military would lie? If they had a captured UFO in 1947, why has conventional warfare been used since that point, admittedly we are getting more advanced now, but why weren't they zapping people in the 50's, 60's and 70's with high powered lazer weapons or something?
The Military has been lieing consistently since well before 1947. A better question, why would you trust what the Military tells you?
Who said anything about zapping anyone with lazer weapons??
Also, Why are you assuming we've been able to completely duplicate all the technology we may have found? There have been many technological advances that could be attributed to recovered vehicles. In fact, there have been reports that many of our Stealth planes, in addition to evading radar, can also escape orbit. Now, I'm not 100% convinced of this, but if it was true, why do you think they'd tell us?
Let me put it like this, it's know during the initial stages of nuclear testing that live subjects were tested in regards to the radiation output WITHOUT BEING TOLD. This would cause a whole methodology od secrecy from the numbers of people that would have been outraged at being used as Guinea pigs without their knowledge.
This is why I suggest that Roswell was a Radiation Probe, potentially with monkeys in a balloon to work out how radioactive the surrounding area was to Trinity, and kept secret to stop the unknowing guinea pigs of the tests and public from finding out how dangers the area still was.
This is more of a leap than a recovered off-world vehicle IMO. I'll agree with you that it is certainly within our Leaders capabilities to do these types of tests, but just because they've done this in the past, doesn't make this the explanation for Roswell.
If you took the time to look through the reports, you would have noticed that policeman found things like Saw blades that had detached from balloons in the late 1940's, because once the public had heard about Roswell in 1947 they generated 1000's of hoaxes. The reason for the FBI's investigation is simple, How would you like to find that one of your friends or family was decapitated by a falling saw blade from a hoax UFO? Objects that were floated high up could potentially be dangerous to those on the ground.
I have not heard of 'Sawblades attached to balloons'. But, I find it difficult to believe this was the sole reason the FBI was investigating UFO reports.
As for suggesting that no one was seeing UFO's or hoaxing until the 1980's, that's untrue,
That's not what I said. I said that the Roswell incident was, for the most part, dead and buried following General Roger Ramey's public press conference, explaining to the world that what was found in Roswell was mearly a weather balloon.
if you look through the evidence on such things as Project Blue Book you'll notice the numbers of siteings increased over time, and increases in appearances seemed to occur every 5 years (A bit like an anniversary or "Quinversary")
Project Blue Book was nothing more than a Public debunker organization. Their sole motive was to explain away all reported incidents. Incidently, every incident that had any credibility never made it to Project Blue Book.
You also seem to miss out something else, take for instance H. G. Wells Radio version of "War of the Worlds" in 1938. How many citizens believed the world was being attacked and actually killed themselves for terror at what the invaders might do.
I'm not suggesting that Aliens don't exist, but I will suggest that alot of fantasy and theory has concocted something that people have turned into something else.
I think what you're doing here is using the logic that; Because there are so many kooks associated with this subject, that none of it has any credibility with you. Unfortunately, this is exactly what the Intelligence community set out to do. Disinform, and ridicule any incident that shows any credibility. That, along with having their own agents create outlandish stories, and individuals. This was all done, to remove any trace of credibility the subject may have. Or shall I say, had at one time.
I'm also not suggesting that the Military in any country never lies, but I will suggest they don't lie about things that they don't have reason to lie about.
You don't see a reason why the military would lie about this???
How about military superiority throughout the world: Accomplished!
How about economic superiority throughout the world. Accomplished!
We had neither of these 2 things in 1947.
A final note: I find it nearly impossible to believe that leaders of the only military base in the entire world with Atomic weapons, would mistake a weather balloon, or any balloon for that matter, from an unknown vehicle from outer space. It was Col. Blanchard who authorized the initial press release. It was not concocted by the media or anyone else.
