How can God not exist?

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Jan Ardena said:
Your link doesn't explain how you KNOW they are MAGIC books.jan.
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Believers employ the magic of God's powers to prove Him, but they forgot to prove him first. So, these powers have not yet been shown, nor has God in the first place.

Besides this, Austin (me) has disproved God as self-contradictory, for parts must precede the complex, like for a molecule, and infinitely more so for a God; plus, even for an electron or any energy form, there is nothing to make it of, thus, all is of nothing, not God.

You have some explaining to about how God just happens to have been sitting around fully formed forever. What decided it and what it then tried to do?
 
SciWriter,

Believers employ the magic of God's powers to prove Him,
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Nonesense.
How can God not exist?

Besides this, Austin (me) has disproved God as self-contradictory, for parts must precede the complex, like for a molecule, and infinitely more so for a God; plus, even for an electron or any energy form, there is nothing to make it of, thus, all is of nothing, not God.
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You cannot even show How God can not exist, let alone prove He doesn't.

You have some explaining to about how God just happens to blah blah blah!
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You have yet to explain How God can NOT exist.
Thread title and all that.

jan.
 
SciWriter said:
I showed how God could not exist, whereas you didn't show how He could.
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The point of the thread is to show How God can NOT exist.
Aside from the same old; God was invented by primitive man to explain thunder,
which has been shown to be unlikely, you haven't come with any explanation of any worth.
All the stuff you wrote are variations of that same old record.
Try and be more creative, and come with something that could actually be possible.

jan.
 
Jan Ardena said:
The point of the thread is to show How God can NOT exist.
Aside from the same old; God was invented by primitive man to explain thunder,
which has been shown to be unlikely, you haven't come with any explanation of any worth.
All the stuff you wrote are variations of that same old record.
Try and be more creative, and come with something that could actually be possible.

jan.
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God could NOT exist because that is impossible, as I've shown. The other part, which you reference, shows how some came to believe that He does.

There's no possible way for a Being to be the first. Do you know of any?
 
Jan Ardena said:
Aside from the same old; God was invented by primitive man to explain thunder, which has been shown to be unlikely, you haven't come with any explanation of any worth.
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Shown by who to be unlikely? And how exactly was it "shown to be unlikely"?

All I've read from you, Jan, is your personal rejection of it, accompanied by something along the lines of "because it's silly and therefore I don't accept it" - nary an iota of actual rational explanation of your rejection rather just sticking fingers in your ears.

And now you seem to conclude that because this thread has gone on long enough and you still haven't accepted any rational explanation that it has somehow been "shown to be unlikely".

Or at least that is my reading of your position.
You are of course at liberty to correct me and repeat this demonstration of unlikeliness that you proclaim has been carried out once already?
 
SciWriter said:
God could NOT exist because that is impossible, as I've shown. The other part, which you reference, shows how some came to believe that He does.

There's no possible way for a Being to be the first. Do you know of any?
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The Being has to take in, process, figures what it wants, plan, figure what to do, obtain source material, create specific structures in the universe, add properties, control everything.
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Why would this be a problem to God?

How is it possible for finite beings to invent infinate things?

jan.
 
Sarkus said:
Shown by who to be unlikely? And how exactly was it "shown to be unlikely"?

All I've read from you, Jan, is your personal rejection of it, accompanied by something along the lines of "because it's silly and therefore I don't accept it" - nary an iota of actual rational explanation of your rejection rather just sticking fingers in your ears.

And now you seem to conclude that because this thread has gone on long enough and you still haven't accepted any rational explanation that it has somehow been "shown to be unlikely".

Or at least that is my reading of your position.
You are of course at liberty to correct me and repeat this demonstration of unlikeliness that you proclaim has been carried out once already?
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The explanations given have been easily refuted.
No explanations have been given as to how and why a man/woman would have gone
to the trouble to invent a non existent being.

Everything thus far could have been explained by using a mundane solution.

The only creations that are being made today are variations on the supernatural.
Nothing new.

jan.
 
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I can't say that it cannot exist, only that there is no evidence of a god being involved in our lives or the universe, and the concept is unnecessary to explain anything, and it's a poor explanation anyway, since it doesn't explain itself.
 
Jan Ardena said:
So it's alright for you to refer to properties you think that would make it impossible for God to exist? :rolleyes:

jan.
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Of course, systems must come later on, not first, as elementals make them up, as we can see. Your properties are invisible magic pronouncements.
 
Jan Ardena said:
God exists, if only in the conscious mind.
As far as we know God has always existed.
So how can God NOT exist?

jan.
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Yes, thoughts have existence, but their subject does not thus necessarily exist.

As far as we 'know', we just made declarations.
 
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