Notice the "if" part there....
Simply because you think something always has been, it doesn't mean that that's the case...
Read your Hume..
It's a fact that it is. You just don't understand logic.
How can God not exist?
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Notice the "if" part there....
Simply because you think something always has been, it doesn't mean that that's the case...
Read your Hume..
It's a fact that it is. You just don't understand logic.
And if God has never existed? What then?
You are asking a stupid question. "If God has always existed, then how can He NOT exist?" is like saying "If a pig walks, then how can a pig NOT walk?"
Ridiculous.
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Have you not been following?
As far as we know, God has always existed, if only in the conscious mind.
So the QUESTION is; How can God NOT exist?
How can a finite mind give rise to the infinite?
jan.
This is the point.
As far as we know, God has always existed in one form or another, but always
in the conscious mind.
That's not the case, but I know where you're coming from.
What about pre-biblical civilisations where the people knew of God?
jan.
Jan are you serious? lol omfg
You think the idea of God just magically appear inside peoples head regardless of whether they are told about him or not?
You think the idea of God just magically appear inside peoples head regardless of whether they are told about him or not?
What about 8 million years ago when we were all apes living in Africa? Did we have a concept of God then?
Jan please remember what you wrote like two posts ago.
Compare with this.
Contradiction?
Compare with this.
Contradiction?
How does ''in one form or another'' contradict ''in some form or another''? :shrug:
jan.
Of course not. Reality exists independently of whatever ideas we may or may not have about it, as evidenced by the fact that we can't just imagine something into or out of existence.
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Who is theis 'WE' you speak of?
WE most certainly do not know that. I agree to an extent that I believe ever since our ancestors developed advanced thought that they have created ideas and stories of a higher being. But as said before this would have only been based around the sun or thunder for example.
What, like dinosaurs?
Are you on about the Christian God? Do you not remember what you said in that thread I started the other day about this?
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=107246
drumbeat,
Anyone who has a grasp of history.
We do know that ancient cultures both regardless of civilisation status
had some knowledge of a cosmic, intelligent creator, which translates to God.
So why would they invent a non-existent being, infinately different from themselves, or their own experience(s) to explain a natural occurrance.
Welcome to the discussion.
Do you regard the dinosaur as being a pre-biblical civilisation?
What is your point?
jan.
Anyone who has a grasp of history.
We do know that ancient cultures both regardless of civilisation status
had some knowledge of a cosmic, intelligent creator, which translates to God.
So why would they invent a non-existent being, infinately different from themselves, or their own experience(s) to explain a natural occurrance.
Welcome to the discussion.
Do you regard the dinosaur as being a pre-biblical civilisation?
What is your point?
jan.
My point is that you capitalise god when you write it, implying that you are referring to the Christian representation, but the things you are writing suggest otherwise.
So, when you type 'God', are you referring to the Christian representation?
You seem to be missing the whole picture which also included ''in one/some form or another/other'' alongside ''conscioius minds''.
jan.
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