HA! I went off to read that paper and I forgot that this thread was here! Oh man, if you're still interested:
Originally posted by SkinWalker Poppycock. There is absolutely no evidence to support that. Beyond normally charged positive and negative ions within our cells (i.e. calcium, potassium, sodium, etc.), which are also a part of our neural networks, there is no other "form of energy not yet identified."
Oh, trust me, I know ALL about the DC Perineural System. I was talking about Eastern Science. The field as it turns out is electromagnetic, although, like I said, scientists have hesitated in the past to call it that for lovely semantic reasons. And I never said "Not yet identified," you're putting words in my mouth and twisting what I say. I said "defined," which is essentially true in all cases. Sidestepping these semantics, all matter, living and non-living, is essentially electromagnetic phenomena. It was wrong of me to say that there is a field around us and instead should have said that we ARE the field. I was at a loss for a better way to describe what I was trying to say. It would be best if we proceeded with that scientifically valid and undisputed view. Atoms, by definition don't exist, they're metaphors for helping us understand and study the phenomena they represent. They are better described as waves. This better describes what I was trying to say.
Why wouldn't it? Wouldn't this be the reason why promenant noses run in families? The shapes of faces?
Was talking about the tensile structure of our being, the elements that we're composed of, not our physical(genetic) characteristics. I should have clarified. I was tying this all in with the Theory of Enformed Systems.
More poppycock. Show the proof or one of the "facts" you so diligently claim. In another thread, you mention "lots and lots" of evidence in one post and include citations to a bunch of 1960's Warsaw Pact era literature. If you have even one of these citations, I'd like to see you scan and post it to the web for scrutiny. Undoubtedly, we'll find substandard testing methodology or weak science alltogether. If there were any conclusions that were extraordinary, it would be mainstream by now.
We all know that for every thought and emotion we have, there is an electromagnetic and chemical reaction. Why is this even a question to you? It's tought in schools, practiced, and experimented with. It's not like I'm proposing some outlandish theory, this is medical science that is held pretty much as common knowledge. For our bodies to show outwardly this type of electromagnetic phenomena, it has to change inwardly.
Baloney. Scientists and skeptics are one in the same. Skepticism is the ultimate in openminded posture. Being skeptical simply means that scientific method is used to evaluate hypotheses... not wishful thinking. A skeptic doesn't accept either side of an issue without looking at the facts.
No kidding, I never said they weren't. If you read it again, I said IGNORANT SCEPTICS. Not intended as the usual insult, it means precisely what it means; unaware or uninformed skeptics. Skeptics on the other hand are more than welcome, as I have been a long-standing member of the Sceptical Society. Being sceptical has absolutely nothing to do with scientific method. I came into this from a medical education first with no presuppositions. I stand by what I said, and if you haven't learned fully about both sides of the equation, you shouldn't be passing judgement or even arguing it. Basing your evaluation on what naysayers say is not an objective view of the evidence, and destroys the involvement of scientific method that you claim to use.
On the other hand, New Agers generally rely on mere say-so by another New Ager for information. There's no other way to explain poppycock like pyramid power, for instance. The same holds for this ESP/PK nonsense. There is certainly some interesting data that is in EEG results, but including this data, there never has been any conclusive data shared in a public manner.
Precisely the opposite, this is how you are appearing to be, substitute New Ager (sans shock quotes) for naysayer. Not intended as an insult, but if you haven't read the reports, then you're not qualified to judge them.
Within this document, it is alluded that the Soviet Union discontinued much of its research because parapsychology threatened Marxist ideologies. There was also issues of credibility among researchers and nothing conclusive was discovered. This document is a DIA study on the Warsaw Pact research of the time-frame of all the citations you gave in the other thread.
The part I bolded is such an invalid statement. I read the document, and it outright supported most of the subjects. I'll ask you again to show me where you read that gave you that theory. In fact, by sending me to it, you added an impressive battery to my repetoire. It seems you helped my cause, and I would recommend everyone else to read it, being that nearly all the subjects of papers I listed in other threads(and their researchers) are neatly covered in this document. In absence of a computer of my own or even an acquaintance with a scanner(where do you live that such things are expected to be common household items?) this report you sent me to is one of the best reference materials I can find.
