Gravity slows down time.

I am glad to see no one has been able to refute the fact that both twins lived 12 earth orbits (12 years) while they were separated which refutes relativity.
 
I am glad to see no one has been able to refute the fact that both twins lived 12 earth orbits (12 years) while they were separated which refutes relativity.



And the troll continues!

Again, if what you say has any evidence, get it peer reviewed and published.
You maybe in line for the Nobel prize for Physics next year! :)
 
It is simple logic.

Can you refute it yes or no.

Yep, that's why you are in pseudoscience.
You have already been suspended for trying the same outlandish rubbish in the real forum.

Oh, yeah, I and many others have refuted it many times, but just as I correctly predicted, you will continue to ignore any refutation, in favour of the pseudoscience rubbish that is far easier for you to accept.
 
I am glad to see no one has been able to refute the fact that both twins lived 12 earth orbits (12 years) while they were separated which refutes relativity.

Both twins lived for 12 earth orbits. The traveling twin aged 10 earth years. The traveling twin is 2 years younger than his twin. They both agree that there were 12 earth orbits. Both twins have been educated and agree that you do not understand relativity.
 
Both twins lived for 12 earth orbits. The traveling twin aged 10 earth years. The traveling twin is 2 years younger than his twin. They both agree that there were 12 earth orbits. Both twins have been educated and agree that you do not understand relativity.

It's rather peculiar how and why these anti-establishment jokers, see the need to bring down the foundations of science.
We have a saying in Australia [not sure if its recognised elsewhere] Why can't they see that they are literally "pushing shit uphill".....
Why do they continue to perform even in the face of mountains of observational evidence to the contrary.

My greatest fear is that there might be someone out there now like Einstein, working in obscurity, who does have some truly great new insight, or Imaginative idea, but because of the crackpots out there, they could possibly be lumped in amongst them. Scientists may not take him/her seriously because of all these other crackpots they have to continually deal with.
I really hope nothing like that happens. I would hate to see science being put behind the eight ball due to the noise from the many crackpots, and some genuine discovery being lost in all that noise and nonsense.
Maybe counteracting that possibility, it is actually a good thing that science forums like this are virtually the only place they are welcome.
It helps free up the process for real science and discoveries.
 
Both twins lived for 12 earth orbits. The traveling twin aged 10 earth years. The traveling twin is 2 years younger than his twin. They both agree that there were 12 earth orbits. Both twins have been educated and agree that you do not understand relativity.
Well, if the twins are 10 and 12, the 12 year old might be old enough to understand Relativity, but the 10 year old probably not. I'm sure even the 10 year old can demonstrate a better understanding of how time works though.
 
Correct!

So you agree that I finished the race? Your watch doesn't say that I only finished half the race, it says I finished it in half the time?

Agree (speaking only for myself, as I am also following this great, simple, deductive process).
 
It's rather peculiar how and why these anti-establishment jokers, see the need to bring down the foundations of science.
We have a saying in Australia [not sure if its recognised elsewhere] Why can't they see that they are literally "pushing shit uphill".....
Why do they continue to perform even in the face of mountains of observational evidence to the contrary.

My greatest fear is that there might be someone out there now like Einstein, working in obscurity, who does have some truly great new insight, or Imaginative idea, but because of the crackpots out there, they could possibly be lumped in amongst them. Scientists may not take him/her seriously because of all these other crackpots they have to continually deal with.
I really hope nothing like that happens. I would hate to see science being put behind the eight ball due to the noise from the many crackpots, and some genuine discovery being lost in all that noise and nonsense.
Maybe counteracting that possibility, it is actually a good thing that science forums like this are virtually the only place they are welcome.
It helps free up the process for real science and discoveries.

.. and all that, from a self confessed anti establishmentarian, self confessed thread derailer, self confessed simpleton, proven fraud .. etc ..
 
Just been doing some checking around, and found our friend on another forum
at...

http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthr...ivity-is-wrong-because-time-dilation-is-false

There rules are far stricter then here, and he was permanently banned. For what reason??
Ignoring all explanations showing him to be in error, and endless repeating, the same nonsense in reply to any questions and/or contrary examples to invalidate the stupidity of his claim.
The only thing different from what he has done here, was that there he did use mathematics, which were shown to be in error, and with erronious conclusions.

Well worth a check.....and only 5 pages long! :)
 
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Correct!

So you agree that I finished the race? Your watch doesn't say that I only finished half the race, it says I finished it in half the time?

Could make a prediction here but for the sake of the sanity of some, will wait for the answer from chinglu. :)
 
Just been doing some checking around, and found our friend on another forum
at...

http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthr...ivity-is-wrong-because-time-dilation-is-false

There rules are far stricter then here, and he was permanently banned. For what reason??
Ignoring all explanations showing him to be in error, and endless repeating, the same nonsense in reply to any questions and/or contrary examples to invalidate the stupidity of his claim.
The only thing different from what he has done here, was that there he did use mathematics, which were shown to be in error, and with erronious conclusions.

Well worth a check.....and only 5 pages long! :)

Yep, well worth a check.

But every move you make, 'boy is further evidence of the fact that you're the troll 'round these parts, not those you accuse.

The link .. CHINGLU posting in another forum 3 years ago .. 3 years ago, in his own name! That would manifestly indicate to any reasonable person, that whatever he had to say, he's been himself - not trolling. But you couldn’t work that out, could you ? Again, proof of the diametric opposite of what you intended.

Where's your posts of 3 years ago in your, emm, defence of science, hmm ?

What you're in fact doing, is stalking him - you know, like you were stalking me several days ago, visiting UNRELATED posts of mine, in UNRELATED threads, leaving insidious, nut job comments immediately after mine.

That's stalking .. and I have to tell you, I was .. so .. scared .. please .. no .. more .. please ..

So, in addition to being a self admitted anti establishmentarian, a self admitted thread derailer, a self admitted simpleton, and a proven fraudster, you are also now a PROVEN STALKER.

And a troll to boot. Another poster earlier mentioned there is a super troll round here with various sock puppets - it's been obvious that that's you. It's so course - I mean, can't you do it with a little more sophistication ? I'm almost embarrassed for you.

LOL .. what did science do to deserve you ?

This ‘boy sockpuppet - it's failing dismally. Try to develop one of the others you have running at the moment. I’ll pretend not to notice for a while :)
 
Yep, well worth a check.

But every move you make, 'boy is further evidence of the fact that you're the troll 'round these parts, not those you accuse.

The link .. CHINGLU posting in another forum 3 years ago .. 3 years ago, in his own name! That would manifestly indicate to any reasonable person, that whatever he had to say, he's been himself - not trolling. But you couldn’t work that out, could you ? Again, proof of the diametric opposite of what you intended.

Where's your posts of 3 years ago in your, emm, defence of science, hmm ?

What you're in fact doing, is stalking him - you know, like you were stalking me several days ago, visiting UNRELATED posts of mine, in UNRELATED threads, leaving insidious, nut job comments immediately after mine.

That's stalking .. and I have to tell you, I was .. so .. scared .. please .. no .. more .. please ..

So, in addition to being a self admitted anti establishmentarian, a self admitted thread derailer, a self admitted simpleton, and a proven fraudster, you are also now a PROVEN STALKER.

And a troll to boot. Another poster earlier mentioned there is a super troll round here with various sock puppets - it's been obvious that that's you. It's so course - I mean, can't you do it with a little more sophistication ? I'm almost embarrassed for you.

LOL .. what did science do to deserve you ?

This ‘boy sockpuppet - it's failing dismally. Try to develop one of the others you have running at the moment. I’ll pretend not to notice for a while :)





:)


Not much more to say...... :)
 
Just been doing some checking around, and found our friend on another forum
at...

http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthr...ivity-is-wrong-because-time-dilation-is-false

There rules are far stricter then here, and he was permanently banned. For what reason??
Ignoring all explanations showing him to be in error, and endless repeating, the same nonsense in reply to any questions and/or contrary examples to invalidate the stupidity of his claim.
The only thing different from what he has done here, was that there he did use mathematics, which were shown to be in error, and with erronious conclusions.

Well worth a check.....and only 5 pages long! :)

His posting style has not changed much [except here he hasn't used the erroneous mathematics he used at the other place] with the usual plain old assertions without any evidence, or references
The thread starts off
" Special Relativity is wrong because time dilation is false. Time dilation cannot be true." and goes downhill from there, until his final banning for the continued repeating of his assertions ad nauseum.
Typical I suppose of all conspiracy/pseudoscience pushers and trolls.
 
Yep, that's why you are in pseudoscience.
You have already been suspended for trying the same outlandish rubbish in the real forum.

Oh, yeah, I and many others have refuted it many times, but just as I correctly predicted, you will continue to ignore any refutation, in favour of the pseudoscience rubbish that is far easier for you to accept.

You have not refuted it.

Sorry.
 
Both twins lived for 12 earth orbits. The traveling twin aged 10 earth years. The traveling twin is 2 years younger than his twin. They both agree that there were 12 earth orbits. Both twins have been educated and agree that you do not understand relativity.

Oh, I see.

Exactly where in reality does it say, the traveling twin lived 12 earth orbits while also living only 10 earth orbits?

I want to see that.
 
Correct!

So you agree that I finished the race? Your watch doesn't say that I only finished half the race, it says I finished it in half the time?

So, what.

The watch incorrectly claimed I finished only 1/2 the race when in fact I finished the whole race.
So, the clock is wrong, which is what I have been saying all along.

The clock must math physical reality.
 
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