I skimmed through most of the above, though I noticed it mentions the Nut Job paddoboy - a self confessed thread derailer, self confessed anti-establishmentarian, and, inter alia, a proven fraudster .. LOL .. please .. he's all yours - 100% of him.
I don't recall reading anything paddoboy posted which did not seem correct to me.
If you have any questions of me, rather than bouncing them of the Nut Job, try making them to me. Providing they are succinct I will answer them - AS I HAVE DONE BEFORE.
It was a statement that I was curious to see if you would find merit in some of the things paddoboy wrote.
In the meantime, I did in fact try to advance this thread. Note the following CAREFULLY !
- Post #460 from Russ Watters - a genuine and amicable attempt by him, to make progress, regardless of what's gone by. DO YOU DECRY HIM AND HIS POST AS WELL ? Please answer this.
I have no idea what you mean. There is nothing particularly illuminating about post 460. RW is merely trying to negotiate to the lowest conceivable level of information exchange with a troll. I'm assuming folks have some knowledge of the relevant math and science which I now see is a bad assumption. So that may be why you see post 460 as something substantial whereas I have been trying to explain relativity itself by way of example.
- My response in post #462 - a reply in similar sentiment to RW's showing no support for (or disapproval of) Chinglu, but..
Lets see Chinglus reply to this and how it develops
Yes I saw that.
Did it develop at all ? No .. just incessant noise from the Nut Job fraudster, (As I warned in the same post) which basically ensures that such a discussion does NOT transpire. Again, if you reply that it shouldn't transpire for any reason, you are decrying RW's post and also his intention.
Huh? I have no idea what you mean. In any case, paddoboy responded
Yep, that's the crux of the problem, and one that is easily illustrated in a couple of videos I supplied, and which he refused to either go there, and/or comment on. That sends the focus back to the videos which I think I missed, since I have trolls on ignore. (The dialogue appears disjointed and rambling. Of couse that's evident in the content I see quoted from the worst offenders. )
You see it don't you ? It certainly becoming more apparent that one or two people here DO NOT want simple, logical deductive discussion, and will continue to derail this thread at all costs.
The statement I set above in italics doesn't comport with that characterization so I'm at a loss to respond to this. However, it brings me back to my earlier remark, expressing curiosity whether you find merit in paddoboy's content, in this case the vids he mentions. He says they answer the mail, but the troll has ignored them. I missed them earlier, but will go watch them later.
And I have to say, your 'Ben Hur' post above did not help or lend one iota to the progress of the subject of this thread.
Apparently that's a reference to the chariot race, which is not at all what I was referring to. In my scenario, Ben Hur would be racing outward on a radial, traveling on a straight course, say, due north of the Coliseum. He would be able to see behind himself, and if a centurion was posted at the inner wall of a racetrack shining a huge mirror reflecting a bright beam of sunlight, and if only one chariot was racing around the track, Ben Hur could count the number of laps from the brief eclipsing of the beam by the passing chariot. Once six laps were counted, Ben Hur would stop on a dime, and race back to the coliseum. At the sub-light speed of a chariot (non relativistic motion) nothing unusual would happen. But put Ben Hur in a very high velocity vehicle, and the rules change; something like the scenario I mentioned would play out. Each of them, Ben Hur and the other guy, would observe 12 laps of the chariot. But we can pick a certain speed of Ben Hur's vehicle such that his total elapsed time amounts to 10 laps. For example, suppose Ben Hur timed the chariot at 10 minutes per lap. Hur would return at the completion of the 12th lap but his watch would say he had been gone 100 minutes, not 120. I've left some other details out that makes this even stranger which I can get back to if you're interested. You said you weren't interested so maybe this is all useless to you.
PS - tried to post this last nignt, couldn't. I now see RW and Chinglu have advanced by a post or two, the posts I referred to above. Even though there is little hope that Nut Job will not spit himself abroad to derail them, will have a good look, as I think it will be interesting. I am actually hoping to learn from this 'bit by bit' progress from RW, and I think it's highly benefical - even if to expose Chinglu.
I thought you said you weren't interested. Maybe I misunderstood you.
